Palibashed BW - I'm out. QQs and ragequits inside.

[FerrousToast]

That is not something made up by bullies, but by a psychological study (follow the link I posted and you can also download the entire thing at booksc.org). I am not saying I have no doubts about their results, but your argument seems to miss the point. I do agree with you that it is no excuse to bully other people, but what does that have to do with anything?

You feel it misses the point because I wasn't arguing with you. I was simply stating my opinion on your argument.

[GustawoVegas]

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Grown people are upset about swastikas and jew jokes and also jealous of people who have more time/people/resources.
Grown people are so upset about it, that they want to impose rules on thoughts and expressions in fucking shitty game that 10 people play.

You are either underaged maximalists or sissified dimwits, latter is more propable in modern Europe/North America.

[burgingham]

I actually found some data comparing adult and adolescent behavior in video games:



Source: Online computer gaming: a comparison of adolescent and adult gamers
M.D Griffiths; Mark N.O Davies; Darren Chappell, Download: http://booksc.org/book/16275383

So there seems to be evidence that violence in games is pretty much a feat of adolescent males. I am a little disappointed the article fails to give reasons why that is the case. Psychologists would probably try an explanation based on hormonal stuff and watnot. I myself believe empathy is something that has to be learned and comes through experience in life so we are back to that.

@Gustwao: My what a nice person you are. Wonder if you can do this without the insults. I never said I want rules on thoughts or expressions in this game. So not sure what you are saying at all actually.

[GustawoVegas]

I actually found some data comparing adult and adolescent behavior in video games:

Study from 2004 - irrelevant
Study made on Everquest players - irrelevant
You are disgrace.
You are using strawmans and irrelevant data fron irrelevant studies.

[burgingham]

Maybe you want to explain why it is irrelevant.

Also I would be happy if you presented better data. I am trying my best here to find what I can. I just started so forgive me if I haven't actually come up with the best studies out there yet.

[Kaios]

Pretty sure its my main.

I didn't check your ip or some shit but your join date says June 2010 and there's no way you played world 2 if you hadn't joined before that so yeah you look like an alt. Or you're possibly talking out of your ass? That is also likely.

[burgingham]

I found another - way too short - article explaining online behavior that differs from the real world one. I am going to link the Wiki article here as it pretty much just sums up the article itself and nobody has to download it then. Apologies for using Wiki as a source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_di ... ion_effect

So this one actually doesn't rate antagonistic behavior in any way, it merely tries to give neutral explanations for it. Seems what Onep was saying earlier about the "invisibility" of the other person plays a big role here. Also personal dettachment, anonymity, the lack of authorities, the belief that nothing in the online world is actually real etc.

[GustawoVegas]

Maybe you want to explain why it is irrelevant.

Because it's made 11 years ago? HL2 just released, average internet speed on DL is 861kb/s for ADSL and 2mb/s for cable

>The total sample consisted of 16% adolescents (n ¼ 88)

Data noise sensitive ammount of people

>An online questionnaire survey

Self-reported data is not reliable

This study is lazy shit, same with 90% of studies about videogames.
Bring study with propper methodology.

[Kaios]

Gustawo I'm wondering what you're even whining about, I guarantee you are one of 90% of players now actively playing this game that had no participation in any world before world 3 or 4 so please dude tell me about all the bad things that happened to Russians in world 2 since I wasn't part of it either I'd like to know!

Also LadyGoo likes to pretend she played during the first worlds so she can also complain about this injustice but in all likelihood she started on W3 like most others.

[burgingham]

Maybe you want to explain why it is irrelevant.

Because it's made 11 years ago? HL2 just released, average internet speed on DL is 861kb/s for ADSL and 2mb/s for cable

>The total sample consisted of 16% adolescents (n ¼ 88)

Data noise sensitive ammount of people

>An online questionnaire survey

Self-reported data is not reliable

This study is lazy shit, same with 90% of studies about videogames.
Bring study with propper methodology.

I don't see how the 11 years play a role. The significance of the group tested and the measurements applied may though, yes. I was thinking the same when I read it.

Could you maybe link a few of the 10% of good studies for me? I am having trouble finding much else.