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RubyRed
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Re: World 7 incoming
yes hopfully I can not gain and have to lose a headach before the world resets.
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rye130
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Re: World 7 incoming
I'm not sure, but if the numbers add up, why does nearly every encounter or skirmish end up in someone being killed?jorb wrote:Why doesn't armor protect you from, say, sting? When we try to crunch the numbers it seems to be the case that an equivalent suit of armor should do a decently good job of saving yo ass from getting one-shotted.
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bmjclark
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Re: World 7 incoming
Completely false. I stab for 2075 with a 100 sword and 475 strength. That's easily enough to go straight through any armor of the same quality and 1 shot the person. I hit someone last night who had 1800 armor class and he had like q180 everything. It should of 0'd off him imo.Ninijutsu wrote:It does. They are over-exaggerating. It takes like 1000 strength and a q120+ sword to 1-shot someone with low-medium constitution.jorb wrote:Why doesn't armor protect you from, say, sting? When we try to crunch the numbers it seems to be the case that an equivalent suit of armor should do a decently good job of saving yo ass from getting one-shotted.
Cajoes wrote:I was the murder victim your guy aggro'd. And slew. Entirely unprovoked. Rather handily at that. Which prompted the retaliatory party. That you also handily slew.
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Ninijutsu
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Re: World 7 incoming
ROFL. People have more than 100-200 HP. That's like 50 con.bmjclark wrote:Completely false. I stab for 2075 with a 100 sword and 475 strength. That's easily enough to go straight through any armor of the same quality and 1 shot the person. I hit someone last night who had 1800 armor class and he had like q180 everything. It should of 0'd off him imo.Ninijutsu wrote:It does. They are over-exaggerating. It takes like 1000 strength and a q120+ sword to 1-shot someone with low-medium constitution.jorb wrote:Why doesn't armor protect you from, say, sting? When we try to crunch the numbers it seems to be the case that an equivalent suit of armor should do a decently good job of saving yo ass from getting one-shotted.
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bmjclark
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Re: World 7 incoming
I know, if they had 1400 armor class (which was common when i had my stuff made), it would kill anyone. I hit someone with 1800 AC. 1800. Someone who's armor was almost twice the quality of my sword for 275 with 475 strength. If you don't see the issue, i don't know what to say.
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Cajoes wrote:I was the murder victim your guy aggro'd. And slew. Entirely unprovoked. Rather handily at that. Which prompted the retaliatory party. That you also handily slew.
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bitza
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Re: World 7 incoming
it does, at the end of w3 i had a 1v1 with oddity, and he won. i had more ua, melee and STR than he did, but he had the advantages of agility and armor quality over me. he was rocking sodom-quality steel plate and dhelm at that point. it was a really long fight but i remember several times breaking his def bar, stinging, and got the 0 "ping" over and over. maybe odd will remember the exact numbers but i certainly don't. most of our movements and attacks were identical and similarly timed. i contend that his superior armor quality was the primary thing that led to him winning therejorb wrote:Why doesn't armor protect you from, say, sting? When we try to crunch the numbers it seems to be the case that an equivalent suit of armor should do a decently good job of saving yo ass from getting one-shotted.
e: it's tough to remember the numbers but i was einher'd which means i had well over 2k strength and sword was well over 100
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RJT
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Re: World 7 incoming
Define low-medium con
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chris1122
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Re: World 7 incoming
How do you find the formula's for dealing damage to someone with armor?
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Ninijutsu
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Re: World 7 incoming
I do see it as an issue, health and protection do not scale nearly as much as they should, I'm just saying that 1-shot is an overused term. 2-shot is more like it.bmjclark wrote:I know, if they had 1400 armor class (which was common when i had my stuff made), it would kill anyone. I hit someone with 1800 AC. 1800. Someone who's armor was almost twice the quality of my sword for 200 with 475 strength. If you don't see the issue, i don't know what to say.
You have to hit higher shp dmg than their armor class. Raw damage is weaponquality*strength, squared, divided by 10, squared again.chris1122 wrote:How do you find the formula's for dealing damage to someone with armor?
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NOOBY93
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Re: World 7 incoming
If sting I think it's raw damage - AC
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