Sane mine support removal

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Sane mine support removal

Postby Granger » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:52 pm

jorb wrote:
  • Towercaps now work as minesupports. They develop a support radius gradually as they grow up, and have, when fully grown, the equivalent radius of a (wooden) Mine Support. As with normal Mine Supports, they can be safely removed if they have never prevented a cave in.

Great, but we still suffer from a pointless removal mechanic.

Change the removing mechanic so that tiles supported by the removed support that would cave in will not when being supported by other supports.
Clean and simple, exploit free, rule.

You can leave the 'can be safely removed if they have never prevented a cave in' in as an addition if you want, don't care - just make the supports sane please.
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby LadyGoo » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:13 pm

Well, there are pros and cons in your suggestion.

Pros:
- there will be less exploiting the support cave-ins for griefing;
- easier to build underground.

Cons:
- easier to grief the mine tunnels: break 3 supports for the price of 1.
- easier to build underground.
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby boreial » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:28 am

Just to put a drop of realism into the picture, lets say there is a 50 year old mine that has been worked for years, now the original supports have most likely prevented at least 1 collapse in the past and now 50 years later I put up new supports (all structurally sound) and take out the 50 year old supports, WHY would removing the old ones cause a collapse if the new ones are now properly supporting the area(s) the old once did?
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby sabinati » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:09 pm

LadyGoo wrote:- easier to grief the mine tunnels: break 3 supports for the price of 1.


what?
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby Granger » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:55 pm

boreial wrote:Just to put a drop of realism into the picture, lets say there is a 50 year old mine that has been worked for years, now the original supports have most likely prevented at least 1 collapse in the past and now 50 years later I put up new supports (all structurally sound) and take out the 50 year old supports, WHY would removing the old ones cause a collapse if the new ones are now properly supporting the area(s) the old once did?

This.

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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby azrid » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:25 pm

Mines should collapse naturally supported or not over time ¦]
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby wonder-ass » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:31 pm

azrid wrote:Mines should collapse naturally supported or not over time ¦]


some people just wanna watch the world burn.
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby overtyped » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:57 pm

I love the growing your own minepost thing, would be good early world to find metal
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby Amanda44 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:04 pm

I'm in support of being able to remove them safely if covered by other supports, I have a stunted towercap that I now have to live with for fear of causing a cave in if I try and remove it even though it has supports around it ... I find that extremely annoying tbh.
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Re: Sane mine support removal

Postby jtpitner » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:35 pm

Forget realism just let me remove the things with no collapses .
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