I apologize for bringing this up in your thread and hope it actively does not detriment your trade, if anything, I hope if you don't want my offer that someone else might hate me enough that they'll trade with you instead. I don't mean to spam in the least, I simply wanted to make my case for a different rate than what you were offering. With that said, my argument is simple: Global economies set a precedent for different prices than are immediately intuitive. As does the economics of work and value. The concept that 2 copper for 1 tin means we both get 3 bronze bars is nice but I've done twice the work for the same benefit you're receiving.
How about this offer then: Whoever produces higher quality bronze smelts the gross product together for both villages and we receive as much bronze back as metal we put in. IE: I end up smelting the bronze to q70, you give me 50 Bars of Tin, I pitch in 100 Bars of Copper. From this, 150 Bars of Bronze are made and you receive 50 Bronze for the tin you put in and I keep 100 from the Copper I put in. Then neither side has a quantity profit while both sides have a quality/utility profit on their product.
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barra
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
From the perspective of the tin-miner, you get screwed if you're trading 1:1 because you have mine and trade twice as much tin to get the copper you need to smelt one load of bronze.
From the perspective of the copper-miner, you get screwed if you're trading 2:1 because you have mine twice as much copper (first to trade, then again to smelt) to get the tin you need to smelt one load of bronze.
Wouldn't be surprised if this was deliberate. If you have copper/tin just find/buy a mine with the opposite and avoid the whole hassle as soon as possible.
From the perspective of the copper-miner, you get screwed if you're trading 2:1 because you have mine twice as much copper (first to trade, then again to smelt) to get the tin you need to smelt one load of bronze.
Wouldn't be surprised if this was deliberate. If you have copper/tin just find/buy a mine with the opposite and avoid the whole hassle as soon as possible.
loftar wrote:You do appear to need a good trolling.
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ciroth
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
copper allows building of charter stones
tin allows crafting of tankards
For some reason i view tin more valuable =P
tin allows crafting of tankards
For some reason i view tin more valuable =P
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Thurrok
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
I disagree.ciroth wrote:copper allows building of charter stones
tin allows crafting of tankards
For some reason i view tin more valuable =P
Charterstones, if used correctly, have a far greater value than tankards could ever have. Then again, this thread isn't about charterstones vs. tankards.
If I were to trade copper for tin (or vice versa), I'd only accept 1:1 or bronze in return. That said, good luck in your endeavors.
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Chrizzenstein
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
when I owned a tin mine I thought it'd be a dick move to ask for more copper for one bar of tin, or anything else, I liked the whole 'I'll give you a bar of tin for 2 bars of copper' idea so we could both just do that trade and be done with each other until the next trade.
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Oblivior
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
It is probebly luck but i end up getting more stones from tin ore then from copper ore.
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Sever
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
Bad luck, specifically irony in this case. Although if this thread is about taking more than you give it might by tyranny.Oblivior wrote:It is probebly luck but i end up getting more stones from tin ore then from copper ore.
Come back two hours earlier.
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Legolas6531
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
This seems like a fair agreement. I hope I don't sound like a troll when I post against something on the forums, I am mostly alone at my "village" and just want to get some hard metal for my stone mansion and handheld objects.TeckXKnight wrote:I apologize for bringing this up in your thread and hope it actively does not detriment your trade, if anything, I hope if you don't want my offer that someone else might hate me enough that they'll trade with you instead. I don't mean to spam in the least, I simply wanted to make my case for a different rate than what you were offering. With that said, my argument is simple: Global economies set a precedent for different prices than are immediately intuitive. As does the economics of work and value. The concept that 2 copper for 1 tin means we both get 3 bronze bars is nice but I've done twice the work for the same benefit you're receiving.
How about this offer then: Whoever produces higher quality bronze smelts the gross product together for both villages and we receive as much bronze back as metal we put in. IE: I end up smelting the bronze to q70, you give me 50 Bars of Tin, I pitch in 100 Bars of Copper. From this, 150 Bars of Bronze are made and you receive 50 Bronze for the tin you put in and I keep 100 from the Copper I put in. Then neither side has a quantity profit while both sides have a quality/utility profit on their product.
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zacatack45
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Re: WE HAVE TIN!!
i am willing 2 eccept ur trade im near newcockhaven and im full of copper,iron but need tin im getting some in trade 4 a friend that needs it desperatly but i want some so ur trade looks fair pm me ur hs and we can talk
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