I've read all this drama now, with all the third parties chiming in on the ethics of the situation. It's how it happened that matters, and not what because without the how there is no event. Rage would be alive with no ordeal if not for entirely external circumstance allowing him to be manipulated to death. Arguably, the mistake was one that Rage either did or did not have to live with the consequences of. Considering that punishing personal indiscretions is not a part of the game in regards to online security, I can't really disagree with the decision to resurrect him. Without Gato knowing Rage personally, and them apparently not being very good friends to the point where trust would be betrayed, the only way this could have happened would be phishing or cracking into accounts. The former is just a volatile situation, and the latter is really sketchy. I think Spiff would agree that both of these are patently uncool.
The method for what happened here was not part of the game, it's just part of the internet. Hopefully Rage just gets his security issues together and the rest is no loss.
Whether this situation would play out the same way for anyone else; for one thing, you'd probably never hear about it because it wouldn't be big news. There's social politics here. I doubt that would affect the decision, but because the situation would be smaller it would probably go unvoiced.
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Sever
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
Come back two hours earlier.
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stickman
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
You would never hear about it for anyone else because the devs would have never have taken the time to rez a no-namer. I assure you if i had messaged the devs about this situation regarding my death I would not have received a reply because im no namer. This is why I have an issue with this situation.Sever wrote:Whether this situation would play out the same way for anyone else; for one thing, you'd probably never hear about it because it wouldn't be big news. There's social politics here. I doubt that would affect the decision, but because the situation would be smaller it would probably go unvoiced.
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loftar
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
Ouch.
Well, I have no good excuse. If I were to state my reasons, it was because 1) I was under the impression that it was a purely personal thing between the two of them and that, since noone else would even know about it, noone else would be affected; and 2) ElGato's tear-jerking PM made it sound as if their friendship was going to end over it.
I'd like to think that I've learned my lesson, at least. For the record, I wouldn't have deleted the ridge at Sodom.
In divine revenge for having made me read 10 pages of raeg, I have killed all their characters.
Well, I have no good excuse. If I were to state my reasons, it was because 1) I was under the impression that it was a purely personal thing between the two of them and that, since noone else would even know about it, noone else would be affected; and 2) ElGato's tear-jerking PM made it sound as if their friendship was going to end over it.
I'd like to think that I've learned my lesson, at least. For the record, I wouldn't have deleted the ridge at Sodom.
In divine revenge for having made me read 10 pages of raeg, I have killed all their characters.
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Sotsa
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
Loftar, you wouldn't be reading through 10 pages of raeg if it weren't for all the dudes shouting fire in this thread!loftar wrote:Ouch.
Well, I have no good excuse. If I were to state my reasons, it was because 1) I was under the impression that it was a purely personal thing between the two of them and that, since noone else would even know about it, noone else would be affected; and 2) ElGato's tear-jerking PM made it sound as if their friendship was going to end over it.
I'd like to think that I've learned my lesson, at least. For the record, I wouldn't have deleted the ridge at Sodom.
In divine revenge for having made me read 10 pages of raeg, I have killed all their characters.
therefore the logical choice would be to kill everyone who participated in the thread.
Before you take insult to this post, keep in mind that I am simply a warrior of truth.
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Zentetsuken
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
I hereby potentially give up my own character's life to second this notion.Sotsa wrote:Loftar, you wouldn't be reading through 10 pages of raeg if it weren't for all the dudes shouting fire in this thread!loftar wrote:Ouch.
Well, I have no good excuse. If I were to state my reasons, it was because 1) I was under the impression that it was a purely personal thing between the two of them and that, since noone else would even know about it, noone else would be affected; and 2) ElGato's tear-jerking PM made it sound as if their friendship was going to end over it.
I'd like to think that I've learned my lesson, at least. For the record, I wouldn't have deleted the ridge at Sodom.
In divine revenge for having made me read 10 pages of raeg, I have killed all their characters.
therefore the logical choice would be to kill everyone who participated in the thread.
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Sotsa
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
Or make some kind of valhalla for our characters, where we can happily kill each other again and again until server reset.
please
please
Before you take insult to this post, keep in mind that I am simply a warrior of truth.
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Dataslycer
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
You probably would be better playing Mount and Blade if that was the case ._.
If you keep focusing on the shadow behind, you will not see the light in front of you.
Being successful isn't just about hard work and succeeding, it is also about picking yourself up when you fail.
Being successful isn't just about hard work and succeeding, it is also about picking yourself up when you fail.
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Jackard
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
Apparently you know shit-all about Blizzard Customer Support. For one, cancelling doesnt erase your guys. For two, they have to deal with account theft a lot.Potjeh wrote:If you can steal my account, you're welcome to it. Either way, the only abuse I see here is trust abuse IRL, and what happens IRL is none of the game's concern. If your roommate cancelled your WoW account with 20 lvl70 chars on it, do you think Blizzard would give a fuck about your complaints? All you could do would be beating the shit out of your roomie, and learning to pick better friends in the future.
Time for for a server reset!Sotsa wrote:therefore the logical choice would be to kill everyone who participated in the thread.
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ElGato
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
i had the LP for a short while after Rage was rezzed, yes.Thepotatomasher wrote:
afaik as long as gato didn't receive lp for killing rage it's like it didn't happen. if he kept the lp it might be a problem
It did end our friendship. I was trying to fix it.loftar wrote:Ouch.
Well, I have no good excuse. If I were to state my reasons, it was because 1) I was under the impression that it was a purely personal thing between the two of them and that, since noone else would even know about it, noone else would be affected; and 2) ElGato's tear-jerking PM made it sound as if their friendship was going to end over it.
I'd like to think that I've learned my lesson, at least. For the record, I wouldn't have deleted the ridge at Sodom.
In divine revenge for having made me read 10 pages of raeg, I have killed all their characters.
Sorry for all this.
Now we're both back to square one.
burgingham wrote:We are all Gato, and Gato is Delamore of course. Goons blablabla...
Caradon wrote:Gato, the anti-ghandi
Sabinati wrote:yeah we're gonna kill you gato!!!
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Jackard
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Re: Since when do the devs do resurections on request?
who puts irl friendships on the line for a game esp one like this

