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Potjeh
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DatOneGuy
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Re: Who needs World 4?
MM + UA combo - Only need 300~500 Marksmanshp, the rest all goes into UA, you use your UA for maneuvers and denying actions while you use the bow to hit their shit for mad damage, if they move, punch their shit, you have to be fast, lag will probably prevent you from doing so.
Melee + UA combo (even) - Probably best with a b12, even Melee/UA so that you can efficiently block with a B12 and also do some serious damage with it, will probably lose against someone who chooses the third option if they have the same LP.
Melee + UA(capped) combo - Cap UA at an effectively level so you don't get blown away (100~200) and then go all into Melee, use a Soldier's Sword, typical setup, you can't use maneuvers too effectively, but you don't need to micromanage as much as you use a sword.
Opt1 beats Opt3 almost every time (by maneuver denying), Opt3 beats Opt2 some of the time, Opt2 beats Opt1 every time.
Given same LP invested, if we based it at 50mil LP where that '100~200' investment looks scant as hell you definitely see the difference.
Opt1 - 400 MM ; 915 UA
Opt2 - 706 UA ; 706 MA
Opt3 - 400 UA ; 915 MA
Let's assume 400 UA as a 'cap' for that Melee due to the high number, when you look at the numbers like that and do the damage formulas (which seem to be off some but still) you'd see how 400 UA v 915 UA would be a huge deal.
Melee + UA combo (even) - Probably best with a b12, even Melee/UA so that you can efficiently block with a B12 and also do some serious damage with it, will probably lose against someone who chooses the third option if they have the same LP.
Melee + UA(capped) combo - Cap UA at an effectively level so you don't get blown away (100~200) and then go all into Melee, use a Soldier's Sword, typical setup, you can't use maneuvers too effectively, but you don't need to micromanage as much as you use a sword.
Opt1 beats Opt3 almost every time (by maneuver denying), Opt3 beats Opt2 some of the time, Opt2 beats Opt1 every time.
Given same LP invested, if we based it at 50mil LP where that '100~200' investment looks scant as hell you definitely see the difference.
Opt1 - 400 MM ; 915 UA
Opt2 - 706 UA ; 706 MA
Opt3 - 400 UA ; 915 MA
Let's assume 400 UA as a 'cap' for that Melee due to the high number, when you look at the numbers like that and do the damage formulas (which seem to be off some but still) you'd see how 400 UA v 915 UA would be a huge deal.
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Potjeh
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Re: Who needs World 4?
By the time you get 6 init (sting doesn't cut it) that ranger bow will hit you for massive damage. You can also throw sand and use evil eye to buy some more time after a shot.
Also, I wouldn't put anything in ME with B12 build, just use punch to deplete defence and then cleave away.
Also, I wouldn't put anything in ME with B12 build, just use punch to deplete defence and then cleave away.
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Neptjunoue
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Re: Who needs World 4?
It would be nice if our combat system ended up falling into a rock scissor paper cycle but unfortunate a lot of that has too many variables to consider fitting in such a simple comparison. Even assuming all of the players of each options are equally skilled at PvP, it is mostly theorycrafting though especially considering that there are possibly more aspect to it than what is appeared on the layer.
Except for the fact that cleave needs +3 advantage and 8 IP.Potjeh wrote:By the time you get 6 init (sting doesn't cut it) that ranger bow will hit you for massive damage. You can also throw sand and use evil eye to buy some more time after a shot.
Also, I wouldn't put anything in ME with B12 build, just use punch to deplete defence and then cleave away.
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sabinati
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Re: Who needs World 4?
punch for advantage and DoG or something to get init
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Thurrok
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Re: Who needs World 4?
Wow.
I never imagined this thread to turn into a combat discussion. Made me lol.
I never imagined this thread to turn into a combat discussion. Made me lol.
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NaoWhut
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Re: Who needs World 4?
Just stack it all in strength, run away,
put a sign up in between you and as
they try walking around it punch them.
boom?
All LP in Marks, only engage hand to
hand if they see ya?
put a sign up in between you and as
they try walking around it punch them.
boom?
All LP in Marks, only engage hand to
hand if they see ya?


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joojoo1975
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Re: Who needs World 4?
burgingham wrote:![]()
Does it take alot of effort to come up with so much nonsense in one post?
Potjeh wrote:Lolwut?joojoo1975 wrote:what scares me the most are the macros. a lot of peeps know that the vets from world 2 kept thier char's into world 3.
sabinati wrote:facepalm.jpg
Darki wrote:ilold
Avu wrote:That's why noobs will be noobs and continue to fail. It's not the evil system it's you being sucky.
Jackard wrote:joojoo1975 wrote:a lot of peeps know that the vets from world 2 kept thier char's into world 3
it would seem i am totally off base with my post. would you all pls post what I missed the mark on by so much. cause seriously I'm not getting it.
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Jackard
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Re: Who needs World 4?
World Three was the first time where there actually was a complete wipe; Two had a game-breaking quality bug and the devs wanted their new system to be tested with fresh characters.
If you read Announcements instead of talking out of your ass you might have known that.
If you read Announcements instead of talking out of your ass you might have known that.
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joojoo1975
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Re: Who needs World 4?
Jackard wrote:World Three was the first time where there actually was a complete wipe; Two had a game-breaking quality bug and the devs wanted their new system to be tested with fresh characters.
If you read Announcements instead of talking out of your ass you might have known that.
thankyou for posting. would u mind linkin the announcement? cause when i looked at the announcements, i didn't find anything about this. but it looks like i must have totally missed it.
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