For all the fish I ate before, and farewell to Tiji

[Wolfang]

@gato: How, come you're not in sodom?

[DatOneGuy]

2 DatOneGuy

I hate everyone who uses this as an excuse.

When possible we solve it diplomatically, but if you will let it be, that village became even worse with every day. They will think it can go unpunished. We once left few people alive after they attacked our during hunt... later they killed 9 noobs in few villages and destroyed them... so we came and destroyed them.
You did almost same thing, and still alive. I will not put here details, becaue of my reasons. Such situations we have 3-4 a day. And 95% of them solved without war because they understand it was wrong.

With power comes responsibility.

Yes, we have 68 players in alliance. Active players. We are responsible for their safety and property. No crimes will go unnoticed, just ending can be different.
AD helped a lot of villages to grow, and few new citys will be built, big ones... We help them too.

I always hope people won't use such excuses for abuse of power, but then they do.
It's really annoying.

That was writen because lack of time, I already thinked not to shorten up messages, so next time just will answer later.

2 DatOneGuy
We didn't want to won everything, thats what the difference. And we are not hated by everybody, just by people who did wrong something.

No, I'm pretty sure that:
1)After your whole silver mine thing, and the fact that -cough- while maybe not you, AD villagers have already attacked and taken over one silver mine, and then extorted bricks out of it's owners, attempted to take my silver mine (and failed because they obviously were off by a whole supergrid...)
2)There's really nothing diplomatic about listening to a single person say something and then go on a killing rampage and kill everyone because of it.
3)If whatever tactic you used to get inside is one other than the crossroad or village tactic, I really hope you reported it before using it.
4)I think I would have heard of all those other things happening, if you attacked them before it seems very strange they wouldn't have posted something whether they were wrong or not.
5)Please clarify on 'I did same thing', If you're referring to my silver mine, you should look up some HnH history. If you're talking about anything else, you got wrongful information, look it up again.
6)That's not the kind of responsibility I was talking about you know. Never seen Spider man? Anyways, the point is. You have the power, that doesn't mean that you run in and anyone who insults your pride has to die and their whole city too, it means that you should be rational in decision making, and not rush towards violence.
7)As for lack of time, you should just leave it out next time. It's what I called a veiled threat, passive aggressiveness, it never works out nicely, and it just shows how much of a douche someone can be to even fall back on that as an excuse. Power is not absolute, and even the king may fall.

[ElGato]

@gato: How, come you're not in sodom?

I was at one point. But, after kLauE killed Avu and left Sodom to join Killville, I followed him.
At this point, I doubt they'd take me back

[Koya]

1)After your whole silver mine thing, and the fact that -cough- while maybe not you, AD villagers have already attacked and taken over one silver mine, and then extorted bricks out of it's owners, attempted to take my silver mine (and failed because they obviously were off by a whole supergrid...)

If we attack, there are dead players. If there are ruined palisade, and no claim near entrance to cave, then its abadoned. We set claim there and found silver mine inside. This situation come out just from the lazynes of its owners. I don't remember about attempts to get your silver mine.

2)There's really nothing diplomatic about listening to a single person say something and then go on a killing rampage and kill everyone because of it.

I will not comment this... You need to look in the miror and ask yourself about that. Do I need to remind how you first come to fort Ross just because it close to Okayama or when Thiefs we killed lied to you it was raid, or killed lot of innocent just because one noob said something ? Its problem of all factions to decide Death or Life on curent situation. I did topic where everybody post names of leaders just to have exact contact to solve it and not travel there.

3)If whatever tactic you used to get inside is one other than the crossroad or village tactic, I really hope you reported it before using it.

It was crossroad. We prefer to RAM place or brake hole by hand and not build 1001 tablet and crossroad.

4)I think I would have heard of all those other things happening, if you attacked them before it seems very strange they wouldn't have posted something whether they were wrong or not.

Attacked whom, what other things, when ? Don't talk didn't saying correct names and places. As for me I didn't understood about what you saying here... Tiji, Mirgorod silver, your silver mine ?

5)Please clarify on 'I did same thing', If you're referring to my silver mine, you should look up some HnH history. If you're talking about anything else, you got wrongful information, look it up again.

Sorry I didn't want to get into details, because it was solved with Juhubert long ago.

6)That's not the kind of responsibility I was talking about you know. Never seen Spider man? Anyways, the point is. You have the power, that doesn't mean that you run in and anyone who insults your pride has to die and their whole city too, it means that you should be rational in decision making, and not rush towards violence.

I had writed before, If it was the point - then there was a lot more villages on fire...
Life you know is more complicated than movies.

7)As for lack of time, you should just leave it out next time. It's what I called a veiled threat, passive aggressiveness, it never works out nicely, and it just shows how much of a douche someone can be to even fall back on that as an excuse. Power is not absolute, and even the king may fall.

To make game interesting for such a lot of people I need to organize fun and interesting work for everybody. There is plan of expansion in this game so we keep it.

PS If you have some questions to discuss and your opinions, I think we should discuss it more private. Don't know how about you, but I don't get used to use every chance to make somebody look bad in eyes of other. You are a part of big fraction and need to controll what you say. I also have what to say about Sodom and what they do wrong, but I will never do it on public.

PPS Please write next time more detailed, its hard to keep about what we discuss because this topic is about Tiji.

[DatOneGuy]

1)After your whole silver mine thing, and the fact that -cough- while maybe not you, AD villagers have already attacked and taken over one silver mine, and then extorted bricks out of it's owners, attempted to take my silver mine (and failed because they obviously were off by a whole supergrid...)

If we attack, there are dead players. If there are ruined palisade, and no claim near entrance to cave, then its abadoned. We set claim there and found silver mine inside. This situation come out just from the lazynes of its owners. I don't remember about attempts to get your silver mine.

Funny because that's the excuse they used, claiming that it was Sodom's mine that 'Dog took'. None of their business at all, so why did they know of this and then use it as an excuse to attack someone else? Interesting. All having to do with silver mines? More interesting.

2)There's really nothing diplomatic about listening to a single person say something and then go on a killing rampage and kill everyone because of it.

I will not comment this... You need to look in the miror and ask yourself about that. Do I need to remind how you first come to fort Ross just because it close to Okayama or when Thiefs we killed lied to you it was raid, or killed lot of innocent just because one noob said something ? Its problem of all factions to decide Death or Life on curent situation. I did topic where everybody post names of leaders just to have exact contact to solve it and not travel there.

Wasn't there, not sure where you got that from. Posting names of leaders doesn't do much. Looking into the subject before hand does. The one instance where Sodom did this wrong (wasn't me btw not to diffuse blame, but to set facts straight) was because ChriS deceived us, had scents, and was a trading partner for a while that we thought we could trust. We've since changed our policy as to not have these problems, and fixed the situation as best we could.

3)If whatever tactic you used to get inside is one other than the crossroad or village tactic, I really hope you reported it before using it.

It was crossroad. We prefer to RAM place or brake hole by hand and not build 1001 tablet and crossroad.

Then, the vandalism scents in the same manner as a 'CR jump' glitch?

4)I think I would have heard of all those other things happening, if you attacked them before it seems very strange they wouldn't have posted something whether they were wrong or not.

Attacked whom, what other things, when ? Don't talk didn't saying correct names and places. As for me I didn't understood about what you saying here... Tiji, Mirgorod silver, your silver mine ?

I meant Tiji. You claim there were issues with them previously? Yet nothing of it was spoken from either party? Interesting.
Mirgorod silver, I already know the full story, it seems your boys are getting a little restless and causing trouble they shouldn't.
My silver mine, it was always mine, Spasml had full knowledge of the attack over a month prior to it happening. It seems he understood that well since he took down his claim that I wouldn't come after him for this.

5)Please clarify on 'I did same thing', If you're referring to my silver mine, you should look up some HnH history. If you're talking about anything else, you got wrongful information, look it up again.

Sorry I didn't want to get into details, because it was solved with Juhubert long ago.

Oh but please, attempts at slandering someone's name should at the least be met with details, if not in public in private.

6)That's not the kind of responsibility I was talking about you know. Never seen Spider man? Anyways, the point is. You have the power, that doesn't mean that you run in and anyone who insults your pride has to die and their whole city too, it means that you should be rational in decision making, and not rush towards violence.

I had writed before, If it was the point - then there was a lot more villages on fire...
Life you know is more complicated than movies.

Not really, justice shouldn't be rushed.

PS If you have some questions to discuss and your opinions, I think we should discuss it more private. Don't know how about you, but I don't get used to use every chance to make somebody look bad in eyes of other. You are a part of big fraction and need to controll what you say. I also have what to say about Sodom and what they do wrong, but I will never do it on public.

PPS Please write next time more detailed, its hard to keep about what we discuss because this topic is about Tiji.

Well it's quite simple, I may be a Sodomite but that doesn't necessarily mean that my views represent the views of a whole. Nor do I have problems with you, I do however, as I stated, have problems with people who attempt to use their power as an excuse to cause harm.

A bruised ego is no reason to kill everyone in a village. Jesus, imagine if this was real life?

[Avu]

sigh...

[Sarchi]

Can't we all just chill the fuck out?

[Sotsa]

lol

[Wolfang]

Sodom is Charlie Wilson, Afghanistan is Tiji and the USSR is AD.

[ElGato]

Sodom is Charlie Wilson, Afghanistan is Tiji and the USSR is Sodom.

And, you're an idiot.