copper/tin-iron ratio in trades

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copper/tin-iron ratio in trades

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Im just curious what the ratio for trade is for these ores. I do 6 copper ore 3 tin ore - 1 iron ore.
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Re: copper/tin-iron ratio in trades

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So... You get 9 pieces of ore in exchange for one? Or you trade 9 for one? Because either way, something seems wrong here.
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6 bronze should be equal to 1 Steel in my opinion.

So 4 copper ore + 2 tin ore = 1 iron ore.

Your ratio is 9 bronze for 1 steel.
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Re: copper/tin-iron ratio in trades

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So you think steel is worth the same as cast?

IMO any common ore ratio over 2:1 is a rip-off, quality being equal.
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Re: copper/tin-iron ratio in trades

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Don't trade tin for copper, it can not be fair in any ratio. Fair trade is tin:bronze or copper:bronze by 1:1.
Iron is like bronze, 1:1 or may be 1:1.5 is fair.

Steel is different story as lots and lots of hand-work involved.
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let me make sure i understand you correctly

tin:bronze should be 1:1
copper:bronze should be 1:1
but you shouldn't trade tin for copper?
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Re: copper/tin-iron ratio in trades

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1 tin = 2 copper
1 iron = 3 bronze

That seems reasonable for me.
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doarn2 wrote:Don't trade tin for copper, it can not be fair in any ratio. Fair trade is tin:bronze or copper:bronze by 1:1.
One bar of tin for a bar made out two copper and one tin? What the hell am I reading?
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Re: copper/tin-iron ratio in trades

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sabinati wrote:let me make sure i understand you correctly
tin:bronze should be 1:1
copper:bronze should be 1:1
but you shouldn't trade tin for copper?
Exactly. So both guys with tin and copper receive bronze inplace of their bars 1:1 - looks fair for me.

@Telemakhos: Craft is ( 1 tin + 2 copper ) = 3 (three) bronze
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slipper wrote:1 tin = 2 copper
1 iron = 3 bronze

That seems reasonable for me.
i'd stab anyone offering me those rates. seems reasonable to me :lol: bronze:iron shouldn't exceed 1.5:1 imo
doarn2 wrote:
sabinati wrote:let me make sure i understand you correctly
tin:bronze should be 1:1
copper:bronze should be 1:1
but you shouldn't trade tin for copper?
Exactly. So both guys with tin and copper receive bronze inplace of their bars 1:1 - looks fair for me.
basic math: transitive property

why not just trade tin:copper 1:1 then?

tin seems the most common metal, from my experience in this world and last world. trade rate for tin:copper should be between 1.5:1 and 1:1. you could possibly get 2:1 if someone with tin is desperate for copper. soft metals are not really very useful.

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