Cheese quantity nerf

[Skorm]

Beeter Bird Breast, Bierwurst, Pumpkin Pie, Apple Pie, Perched Perch, Delicious Deer Dong

Those foods are superior to cheese. I think your mind is too stuck on cheese's ability to procure a lot of STR points (int cha per and agi to some degree too, I guess, but there are better non-cheese alternatives)

You can't get any dex and psy, nor hardly any CONS from cheese.

generic gouda isnt that bad

[ewlol]

Cheese takes its value in the set-up time.

I had an entire house dedicated to cheese. Then, I had to create vinegar, 100++ cheese racks, then create all of the trays (which is a gigantic waste of wood), and then have a reliable milk source.

There is a lot of effort involved in creating that mass production, and I want it to be fruitful.

[Potjeh]

You wouldn't need that much infrastructure if you were making less cheese. It'd still be great return for investment, though.

[ewlol]

Then maybe cheese should be less of an idly-producing food.

I don't know though, since I have no experience in life with making real cheese. Do cheese makers mess with their cheese while its aging?

[loftar]

make rennet require calf intestine rather than generic intestine.

That was, indeed, the original intention (though there were, of course, no calves at the time), so I wouldn't necessarily mind.

On the other hand, I do kind of like it how relative noobs can make at least minute quantities of cheese (kind of like with silk). Then again, it might just be that I really dislike the current taming/domestication/keeping mechanics, though. It would be nice to change that to something better. Ever since we added it, I still haven't felt like taming an animal.

[ewlol]

Perhaps you would feel like taming an animal if you were not a Developer.

I personally love the current animal domestication system.

Except, I hate that you cannot pick up animals. I spent 10 and a half hours walking 10 animals 4 supergrids across the map.

[Potjeh]

You could add aurochs calves. Maybe make them more easily tameable, and then we feed them with clover milk.

[Onionfighter]

Taming sucks, and pretty much relies on exploits (unless you want to spend an hour taming your third bull in a row).

[sabinati]

Taming sucks, and pretty much relies on exploits (unless you want to spend an hour taming your third bull in a row).

this.

just make it take 1 quell

[Zamilpen]

Str- BBC, MBC
Agi- Creamy Camember
Int- Jorbonzolla
Con- Generic Gouda (not as good though)
Per- Mothzerella (sp)
Chr- Harmesan, Sunlit
Dex- None
Psy- None (Jorbonzolla is int with bonus rather)

Strength- No doubt Midnight Blue Cheese and Blue Brodgar Cheese are the best strength food and the latter is easy to mass. Midnight Blue Cheese is not very massable due to its very long time to develop jorbonzolla into it and only practical if you have a huge FEP meter.
Agility- Creamy Camember only has 1 stage and is easy to mass. It helps it even more that Delicious Deer Dog is now more rare than before due to animals being rather sparse.
Intelligence- Hands down the Best Int food. Only several seafood, particularly perched perch, are good as food in FEP and they are fairly rainbow FEP as it is.
Constitution- Generic Gouda loses to the farming equivalent on FEP, pumpkin pie, pumpkin bread, and pea pies.
Perception- If you want perc, then it is better to use the milk for butter for carrot cake which is really only limited by wheat since carrots grow very fast.
Charisma- Harmesan is pretty much only thing that you need for charisma. Sunlit Stilton takes even longer than MBC.
Dexterity- There is no dex cheese
Psyche- Only Jorbonzolla has it and has a low chance of getting it due to its heavy int weight so no.

So the field that cheese is best at is strength, intelligence, and charisma, while being a contender at aglity. It falls behind in consititution, and perception. Dexterity and Psyche is genenrally what it doesn't have. Essentially Cheese has 3.5 of the stats well covered and you only need a carrot, pumpkin, and wheat field to cover the secondary. Shrooms and bulbs will cover the specialized stats. What I'm getting at is that cheese should not be over desired over many of the other foods.