He/she probably shares my dislike of the x-ray feature. I no liek.Igglebert wrote:dra6o0n wrote:And you'll likely be promoting botting/macro tools and custom clients that enables them to have an advantage over other players, because you are not going to be able to get strong combat in a short time frame when it comes playing normally.Zampfeo wrote:If you built your town with the intention of being vulnerable, then these wouldn't matter. Make a wall with one open entrance and invite many villagers. Make them get decent in combat and wall up their own plot. Order them to kill anyone not in the village on sight. If you don't put all your eggs in one basket, it renders these exploits completely useless. You could have a few stone mansions brick walled in one area for silk and all your precious metals in strongboxes in another brick walled area. If they exploit, they will only get to hit some of your assets once and that gives you time to recover and even after that they still will have to exploit even more to get all your other mini-plots.
Don't see how you think botting and custom clients to be the same thing.
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LimaZulu
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
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TeckXKnight
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
You can get excellent combat abilities in a short period of time if you're not dicking around and get some basic city infrastructure going. LP is cheap and easy to get, botting, grinding, or not. Bots just have the advantage of being up 24/7. Hunting, Farming, and Mining are still excellent lp if you're doing them for more than 30 minutes a day.
Turning your city into islands does go pretty far at keeping you safe but the second they get access to your crossroads, then they can just break into every island and steal what they'd like. Transportation and access are problematic and only compounded by the fact that if invaders are inside of your walls, all non-combat characters that log on are royally screwed.
Turning your city into islands does go pretty far at keeping you safe but the second they get access to your crossroads, then they can just break into every island and steal what they'd like. Transportation and access are problematic and only compounded by the fact that if invaders are inside of your walls, all non-combat characters that log on are royally screwed.
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LimaZulu
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
Duuuuuuuuuude, I hadn't even thought of an archipelago. That's fucking sweeeeet
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kLauE
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
Koya knows, how to push his reputation.Koya wrote:Tested, confirmed. Its fixed.

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Majickthise
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
I just wanted to point out this is untrue, and has been argued in the bugs forum. If you replant your highest seeds from the total harvest, and the distribution of -5/+2 is even you will still see quality gains as long as you keep farming. Your leftover seeds will see a larger variation, but there will still be enough seeds to keep the quality moving upward.cobaltjones wrote:It's theoretically impossible to increase your crop quality by anything more than a 1.2x magnitude over your soil quality. If it were -2/+2, then yes, it would still be possible to have ubercrops, although it would likely take months. The problem with -5/+2 is that the average seed harvested is actually worse than the one you planted. No way to keep up an increase against those odds.
Anyway, back to the exploits...
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Jackard
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
I heavily dislike x-ray, but that doesnt mean I'm willing to cripple myself by not using it.LimaZulu wrote:He/she probably shares my dislike of the x-ray feature. I no liek.
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TeckXKnight
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
Truth.Majickthise wrote:I just wanted to point out this is untrue, and has been argued in the bugs forum. If you replant your highest seeds from the total harvest, and the distribution of -5/+2 is even you will still see quality gains as long as you keep farming. Your leftover seeds will see a larger variation, but there will still be enough seeds to keep the quality moving upward.cobaltjones wrote:It's theoretically impossible to increase your crop quality by anything more than a 1.2x magnitude over your soil quality. If it were -2/+2, then yes, it would still be possible to have ubercrops, although it would likely take months. The problem with -5/+2 is that the average seed harvested is actually worse than the one you planted. No way to keep up an increase against those odds.
Anyway, back to the exploits...
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LimaZulu
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
Yay!Majickthise wrote:I just wanted to point out this is untrue, and has been argued in the bugs forum. If you replant your highest seeds from the total harvest, and the distribution of -5/+2 is even you will still see quality gains as long as you keep farming. Your leftover seeds will see a larger variation, but there will still be enough seeds to keep the quality moving upward.cobaltjones wrote:It's theoretically impossible to increase your crop quality by anything more than a 1.2x magnitude over your soil quality. If it were -2/+2, then yes, it would still be possible to have ubercrops, although it would likely take months. The problem with -5/+2 is that the average seed harvested is actually worse than the one you planted. No way to keep up an increase against those odds.
Anyway, back to the exploits...
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Zampfeo
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
Who needs crossroads? Build stone mansions and completely surround them with brick walls, no gates. These are your secure storage containers. Make a few accounts with a character for each building. Put the HF in the cellar with some beer or wine and have him hearth between the village and HF whenever you need to retrieve or store things. Use these as public accounts for trusted members. If someone wants to raid you they have lots of wall to go through.TeckXKnight wrote:You can get excellent combat abilities in a short period of time if you're not dicking around and get some basic city infrastructure going. LP is cheap and easy to get, botting, grinding, or not. Bots just have the advantage of being up 24/7. Hunting, Farming, and Mining are still excellent lp if you're doing them for more than 30 minutes a day.
Turning your city into islands does go pretty far at keeping you safe but the second they get access to your crossroads, then they can just break into every island and steal what they'd like. Transportation and access are problematic and only compounded by the fact that if invaders are inside of your walls, all non-combat characters that log on are royally screwed.
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boshaw
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Re: How to Raid ANY village with No Ram, No Effort
Zampfeo wrote:Who needs crossroads? Build stone mansions and completely surround them with brick walls, no gates. These are your secure storage containers. Make a few accounts with a character for each building. Put the HF in the cellar with some beer or wine and have him hearth between the village and HF whenever you need to retrieve or store things. Use these as public accounts for trusted members. If someone wants to raid you they have lots of wall to go through.TeckXKnight wrote:You can get excellent combat abilities in a short period of time if you're not dicking around and get some basic city infrastructure going. LP is cheap and easy to get, botting, grinding, or not. Bots just have the advantage of being up 24/7. Hunting, Farming, and Mining are still excellent lp if you're doing them for more than 30 minutes a day.
Turning your city into islands does go pretty far at keeping you safe but the second they get access to your crossroads, then they can just break into every island and steal what they'd like. Transportation and access are problematic and only compounded by the fact that if invaders are inside of your walls, all non-combat characters that log on are royally screwed.
I prefer to just hide all alone @ the lowest z level surrounded by brickwalls... all alone