Boar Tusk - please balance

[Zarxes]

Q 44, 24 hours to complete it takes !15 att! - and the result? 3600 lp at 360%. This item is now officially worse than cat gold.#

I think for 15 att this item should be worth a lot more. If you dont want boargrinding to be in this world, make it 1 att at the same values. Then you are saying, you get lp for 1 boarkill every 24 hours to prevent boargrinding. But 15 att with 1000 baselp is just stupid and makes you want to throw this stuff away right after collecting bones for seers bones. 3600 lp every 24 hours for 1 att are not gamebreaking. I mean, you killed a boar for it. Atm is rabbitfoot > boar tusk, that doesnt sound right.

[sabinati]

you get tusks for every boar, rabbit foot is a rare drop, of course it's better.

[Avu]

Sure but this still makes tusks complete trash. I don't have any problem with rare curiosities being good but mundane non trivial ones should be decent as well. I'm saying decent. Putting the tusk on is like saying I hate my attention slots let's waste them.

[pyrale]

you get tusks for every boar, rabbit foot is a rare drop, of course it's better.

Isn't that worse than a toy chariot tho ?

[Zarxes]

Here is some math: if you just use 1 slot for cone cow and leave the rest of these 14 slots alone you get 24x 540=12960 lp.
If you use the 15 slots for boar tusk you get 3600.
That means, just using 1 slot for toy cow and forgetting the other 14 slots will grant you 358% - 4 times- as much lp as boar tusk. And dont tell me cone cow is rarer than boar tusk

[gbrish]

I think the reason boar tusks are lower is they are fire and forget items. Meaning you can leave them in there and log off for several days and still get items. The cone cow you would have to change every 30-40 minutes (I do not know the exact time). So basically we get small items with short durations that give us active players a good source of lp, while the empty att slots can be filled with these poor curiosities with long durations while we are inactive.

my point is, if your making an argument that boar tusks aren't balanced you should compare it to other long - term curiosities and stop comparing it to items like cone cows and daisys.

[pyrale]

I think the reason boar tusks are lower is they are fire and forget items. Meaning you can leave them in there and log off for several days and still get items. The cone cow you would have to change every 30-40 minutes (I do not know the exact time). So basically we get small items with short durations that give us active players a good source of lp, while the empty att slots can be filled with these poor curiosities with long durations while we are inactive.

my point is, if your making an argument that boar tusks aren't balanced you should compare it to other long - term curiosities and stop comparing it to items like cone cows and daisys.

They are still poor compared to toy chariots, wishbones, etc.

[cobaltjones]

Sure but this still makes tusks complete trash.

Then don't use them? There were plenty of things in the old system that weren't really LP/effort productive. Not everything has to be "good".

[cobaltjones]

Here is some math: if you just use 1 slot for cone cow and leave the rest of these 14 slots alone you get 24x 540=12960 lp.
If you use the 15 slots for boar tusk you get 3600.
That means, just using 1 slot for toy cow and forgetting the other 14 slots will grant you 358% - 4 times- as much lp as boar tusk. And dont tell me cone cow is rarer than boar tusk

You can't log your character out for a day and still get 12960 LP from cows...

[Potjeh]

I guess these are just supposed to be higher end items. As you get a lot of int, your study box will fill up, and you'll need to get higher "density", ie use more attention per slot. I still think it's downright wrong that low attention items give more LP/h than high attention items, though. Especially the short study items being superior, it just encourages botting. If anything, long study items should be better, because LP in four days is worth a lot less than LP today.