this community sucks

[sami1337]

This actually is one of the worst communities I've ever seen.
It's just a bunch of boring internet stereotypes. Lots of smart kids who think they are the best shit ever happened to humanity. You know, that kind of kids who try to look smart every time they post something. Looking smart on the internet obviously means a lot of poor sarcasm, insults, 4chan-esque humor and abuse of old internet memes.
Then there's people like Voodoodog. Same kind of smart kid wannabe, but totally illiterate as well.

How many active users on this forum? A couple hundreds? In an early alpha. Just look at the amount of drama and flames.
Luckily there are some exceptions amongst the masses of fucktards. Without those exceptions, Jorb and Loftar would be better off doing all the testing by themselves and closing the forum altogether.

Seconded.

[Jackard]

Great. Thanks for coming.

[kobnach]

For the record - the public IRC channel has an insult directed at me in its message of the day, This is not the action of an impartial or appropriate moderator.

The public IRC topic can be changed by anyone who wants, out of the 40 or so people who hang around there at different times no one has changed it to remove the joke even though it gets changed multiple times daily to edit the server status.

Ah - I thought changing such things was usually restricted to moderators.

By the way, what does it say precisely? (My friends who reported this just told me the IRC mods (ops?) obviously didn't like me, and I should probably stay away.)

[sabinati]

it says "To crush your enemies, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the kobnach"

[sami1337]

For the record - the public IRC channel has an insult directed at me in its message of the day, This is not the action of an impartial or appropriate moderator.

The public IRC topic can be changed by anyone who wants, out of the 40 or so people who hang around there at different times no one has changed it to remove the joke even though it gets changed multiple times daily to edit the server status.

Ah - I thought changing such things was usually restricted to moderators.

By the way, what does it say precisely? (My friends who reported this just told me the IRC mods (ops?) obviously didn't like me, and I should probably stay away.)

Hey let's start a club of goon piss poles. Sounds like fun.

[theTrav]

Actually I've moderated four or five other forums and several irc channels in the past, including the public channel for this game. im not aware of any complaints??? unless you count the few times I kickbanned voodoodog for troublemaking (kbs being temporary)

once again judging the competence of someone based on how much you like them, tsk tsk. where is your detachment?

For the record - the public IRC channel has an insult directed at me in its message of the day, This is not the action of an impartial or appropriate moderator.

I'm pretty sure he also kicked/banned some other people he didn't like for having a go at his friends and doesn't kick/ban people for having a go at people he doesn't like. Pretty classic mod abuse if you ask me. "No complaints from my friends who hang out in the channel, only from the people I don't like who I abuse"

Not that I really have to labour the point, I think anyone with half a brain can see what an aggro troll Jackard is and modding's not going to happen according to J&L so it's all moot.

[Delamore]

Actually I've moderated four or five other forums and several irc channels in the past, including the public channel for this game. im not aware of any complaints??? unless you count the few times I kickbanned voodoodog for troublemaking (kbs being temporary)

once again judging the competence of someone based on how much you like them, tsk tsk. where is your detachment?

For the record - the public IRC channel has an insult directed at me in its message of the day, This is not the action of an impartial or appropriate moderator.

I'm pretty sure he also kicked/banned some other people he didn't like for having a go at his friends and doesn't kick/ban people for having a go at people he doesn't like. Pretty classic mod abuse if you ask me. "No complaints from my friends who hang out in the channel, only from the people I don't like who I abuse"

Not that I really have to labour the point, I think anyone with half a brain can see what an aggro troll Jackard is and modding's not going to happen according to J&L so it's all moot.

Yet you have no evidence, just "oh yeah he did something bad I think!"
Your point has no value if you have no evidence.

Also that one person was banned by me not Jackard and was a flat out spammer.
VVV

[Colbear]

Actually I've moderated four or five other forums and several irc channels in the past, including the public channel for this game. im not aware of any complaints??? unless you count the few times I kickbanned voodoodog for troublemaking (kbs being temporary)

once again judging the competence of someone based on how much you like them, tsk tsk. where is your detachment?

For the record - the public IRC channel has an insult directed at me in its message of the day, This is not the action of an impartial or appropriate moderator.

I'm pretty sure he also kicked/banned some other people he didn't like for having a go at his friends and doesn't kick/ban people for having a go at people he doesn't like. Pretty classic mod abuse if you ask me. "No complaints from my friends who hang out in the channel, only from the people I don't like who I abuse"

Not that I really have to labour the point, I think anyone with half a brain can see what an aggro troll Jackard is and modding's not going to happen according to J&L so it's all moot.

Only one person is banned in the public haven chat, but thanks for playing! Seriously, though, you're a retard. Kicking people, if it does happen, is hardly a big deal when you can autorejoin for free.

[theTrav]

Seriously, though, you're a retard.

Wow, convincing argument there, thanks for contributing, you really showed me the error of my ways...
I'd expect a mod to remove that section and give you a warning for personal insults, if you did it again a week ban, if you did it a third time as long a ban as possible.

Yet you have no evidence, just "oh yeah he did something bad I think!"
Your point has no value if you have no evidence.

evidence:

Actually I've moderated four or five other forums and several irc channels in the past, including the public channel for this game. im not aware of any complaints??? unless you count the few times I kickbanned voodoodog for troublemaking (kbs being temporary)
once again judging the competence of someone based on how much you like them, tsk tsk. where is your detachment?

For the record - the public IRC channel has an insult directed at me in its message of the day, This is not the action of an impartial or appropriate moderator.

But yes you're right, I haven't made an effort to collect logs and screen captures of Jackard being a douche. It's just my opinion, you don't value my opinion, fine I'm OK with that, you've got it anyway

[Colbear]

But, why? What's the matter with personal insults, really? It's the internet, on an informal setting, about an informal subject matter. There is, explicitly, no rule that says you have to a) be respectful, b) be politically correct, c) not type like a ten year old who's just learned how to talk to people on the internet, or d) not spam the forums with worthless no-content posts or threads.

I've found Jackard to be well-spoken and respectful in all the times we've spoken to each other -- and he's the one who runs the MapLib maps, though I suppose you don't want to hear that since you're so sure he's a worthless individual.

You're making an argument that doesn't apply.

You're saying, "The public IRC is biased and Dela's a jerk".
We reply, "It's not biased -- only a spammer got banned, and as far as "insulting topics" is concerned, it can be changed by anyone in IRC. If an insult is up, it's because no one else cared enough to change it, DESPITE the topic changing all the time to reflect server status. PS: I'm gonna call you names now."

And now you're saying, "Since you called me names, the rest of your argument is invalid and I'm clearly right and you should be banned for being mean to me, on a forum that doesn't have conduct rules. The moderators suck and are clearly biased towards goons, you guys all suck, let me whine about my persecution complex here."

Hey you fucking moron, there ARE no behavior moderators on the public IRC. There are no moderators to be biased for goons. If anything, all they really do is make sure no one comes and makes the place unreadable by spamming it to shit.

ps: calling someone names isn't a valid argument, and is not meant to be a valid argument -- I EXPLAINED why you were wrong, AND ALSO called you names. My explanation is a valid argument. My calling you names is because I feel like it, and because you can. I am, in fact, capable of doing two things in one post.