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al
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
I've mistaken, meant to be this: those who deny US and other Western governments involvment in, plotting and inciting of terrorism are no less arrogant than those who deny Holocaust...
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Halagaz
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
You are clearly going too far, yes they did let some potentially dangerous guys take power in some countries that are turning against them now, helped them or whatever, but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?al wrote:I've mistaken, meant to be this: those who deny US and other Western governments involvment in, plotting and inciting of terrorism are no less arrogant than those who deny Holocaust...
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ninja_yodeler
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
Halagaz wrote:but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?
the way that i, and pretty much everyone i know, and most i have seen talking on t.v, see things is that america started modern terrorism.ninja_yodeler wrote:america: "we are against terrorism. the murdering of thousands of innocent civilians is a crime against humanity, and will not be tolerated"
america: *drops atomic bomb over japan*
herpity derp herp
people drove a plane through 2 buildings, i dont see that as worse than dropping an atomic bomb on a hospital, and subsequent area.
edited so it actually quotes
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Phaen wrote: RIP Homicidal Ninja
Let us reflect upon the good he was able to do during his short time in the hearthlands.
Let us remind ourselves of his bravery and willingness to fight for the safety of his friends!
Let us hope he can surpass his previous achievements in his future lives.
<3
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novaalpha
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
It still makes sense.Zampfeo wrote:Too bad MLK never said it.
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al
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
Among those guys:Halagaz wrote:You are clearly going too far, yes they did let some potentially dangerous guys take power in some countries that are turning against them now, helped them or whatever
1. Saddam. A figure too much biased by Western media and politicians.
2. What they called al-Qaeda at first. Mujahideen weren't potentially dangerous, they were practically dangerous.
So, they helped those guys.Halagaz wrote:but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?
They make Israeli–Palestinian conflict to never end.
They stir up revolutions and wage wars in Middle East, Central Asia and now in North Africa. They aim states which are oriented on a secural society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya. Helping religious fanatics to come to power. In Afghanistan they helped Mujahideen killing a secural society which was to arise there. They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Libya right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.
They never tried to deal with terrorism in a rational and effective way which implies total ignore and censor of terrorism theme in media, because public reporting is the basis of this kind of terrorism. Which also implies measures being proportional to the gravity of the problem.
They invented and intensively exploit terrorism/anti-terrorism mythology. They use terror acts in Western cities (including East Europe and Russia) to enforce police control over population and to draw masses' attention away from real problems. The only group 9/11 was advantageous to was US ruling elite. And they used it to fullest extent, creating whole new culture of brainwashing, new global enemy to replace Communists of Cold War, universal excuse to wage wars.
And today again they drew attention away from real problems at home by throwing in this "sensation" of Osama being killed. And also the same time they've started another war which had no clear excuse.
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kLauE
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
Agent Orange killed more civilians than Saddam.WarpedWiseMan wrote: Saddam murdered MILLIONS.
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pyrale
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
whatal wrote:They aim states which are oriented on a temporal society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia.
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They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Lybia right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.
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al
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
I meant secular society, sorry.pyrale wrote:al wrote:They aim states which are oriented on a temporal society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia.
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Those who started actual armed conflict in Libya were young islamist junkies and not common people.pyrale wrote:whatal wrote:They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Lybia right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.
HDI. People in Libya had nearly the same level of well-being as in Europe, they had no real reason to revolt against their government. It was plotted.
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flajek122
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b_anon
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Re: Osama bin laden is dead
You're a good dude, and i think you're right.al wrote:Among those guys:Halagaz wrote:You are clearly going too far, yes they did let some potentially dangerous guys take power in some countries that are turning against them now, helped them or whatever
1. Saddam. A figure too much biased by Western media and politicians.
2. What they called al-Qaeda at first. Mujahideen weren't potentially dangerous, they were practically dangerous.
So, they helped those guys.Halagaz wrote:but now to say they are involved and inciting terrorism?
They make Israeli–Palestinian conflict to never end.
They stir up revolutions and wage wars in Middle East, Central Asia and now in North Africa. They aim states which are oriented on a secural society, social wellbeing and prosperity: Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia. Helping religious fanatics to come to power. In Afghanistan they helped Mujahideen killing a temporal society which were to arise there. They incited and are helping islamist junkies in Lybia right now, the country which had HDI of a European level.
They never tried to deal with terrorism in a rational and effective way which implies total ignore and censor of terrorism theme in media, because public reporting is the basis of this kind of terrorism. Which also implies measures being proportional to the gravity of the problem.
They invented and intensively exploit terrorism/anti-terrorism mythology. They use terror acts in Western cities (including East Europe and Russia) to enforce police control over population and to draw masses' attention away from real problems. The only group 9/11 was advantageous to was US ruling elite. And they used it to fullest extent, creating whole new culture of brainwashing, new global enemy to replace Communists of Cold War, universal excuse to wage wars.
And today again they drew attention away from real problems at home by throwing in this "sensation" of Osama being killed. And also the same time they've started another war which had no clear excuse.