What Am I looking at here...?

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kLauE
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Re: What Am I looking at here...?

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Or you just steal steel from raids. Same with bone glue, ropes, leather and shit.
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looks to me like a ram could be walled there, idk though
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kLauE wrote:Or you just steal steel from raids. Same with bone glue, ropes, leather and shit.
Steal steel from raids? Wasnt this latest posts about how to ram and get in a heartvault?
So basically, you have a griefer in a HV and according to your post, you have to go and grief others to kill that griefer?

Your logic is flawed.
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daemmonium wrote:
kLauE wrote:Or you just steal steel from raids. Same with bone glue, ropes, leather and shit.
Steal steel from raids? Wasnt this latest posts about how to ram and get in a heartvault?
So basically, you have a griefer in a HV and according to your post, you have to go and grief others to kill that griefer?

Your logic is flawed.
Not really. It's not griefing if it's with purpose.
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DatOneGuy wrote:Not really. It's not griefing if it's with purpose.
Your purpose may not be related to the victim's interests. So, in the eyes of the victims, it will be plain and simple griefing.
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"Grief" in MMO terms carries the connotation of being for the sole purpose of ruining the experience for the other player. In this case it would be simple theft, not really "griefing".
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GrimEggbert wrote:"Grief" in MMO terms carries the connotation of being for the sole purpose of ruining the experience for the other player. In this case it would be simple theft, not really "griefing".
Pretty much this right here.

If I said "Lol I'ma kill u cuz I can i strong" it's griefing - AD W3
If I said "I want what you have and I'm taking it" it's theft, not griefing.
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DatOneGuy wrote:
GrimEggbert wrote:"Grief" in MMO terms carries the connotation of being for the sole purpose of ruining the experience for the other player. In this case it would be simple theft, not really "griefing".
Pretty much this right here.

If I said "Lol I'ma kill u cuz I can i strong" it's griefing - AD W3
If I said "I want what you have and I'm taking it" it's theft, not griefing.
But stealing followed by destroying the guys stuff (those you cant carry away or useless stuff) and raping out all his crops + animals. Isnt that griefting too?
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Post by GrimEggbert »

Depends I guess. If you did it out of fear of the character himself, trying to set him back a bit and get ahead in the race then I guess it counts as a sort of self preservation.

But if you go around destroying some poor guy's q40 tables when you've got q150 then yeah that's kind of a dick move.
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Well, you're right it's not griefing. Theft was the correct word. But what if the guy from the HV is a thief? You're gonna steal someone to kill a thief?

I still see Klaue's logic as flawed.
Do you want see right through the devil's eyes?
You must have seen the ground where they all stood before
I was a young man then, I was a young man then
Spending my time on the killing floor
Be more than you seem to be
Joy of labour sets you free.

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