Two critiques.

jorb · Post by **jorb** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:54 pm

sprayerone wrote:And as for having a meat grinder: I stole it.

... so that's where it went.

Post by **MagicManICT** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:09 pm

sprayerone wrote:Discoveries make the life of a career criminal difficult in a very silly way.

I don't practice thievery (though I will practice scavenging) and I completely agree with you here. Many others also agree with you here. In fact, it was brought up immediately after the start of the current world. Since we got Jorb posting here, maybe it's about time it got fixed.... (Yeah, I know, paychecks before hobbies.

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MasterCatfish · Post by **MasterCatfish** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:12 am

The discovery system can be frustrating to old players who know about all the items which can be made. In my village there is some deer meat and intestines, and I need agility. I have never killed a deer, however, so I have to get my FEP in a different way. To a new player, the I think the discovery system might be more intuitive than being given options to make things which you don't understand. String confused me for a very long time when I started playing.

I'd like to propose another alternative. Being able to move items into the study to discover them. Since I have deer meat available in my village, it would be cool if I could just pop it into my study and in a few hours figure out how to make sausage with it. This method of discovery shouldn't add LP. I noticed that my character didn't discover leather until I pulled it out of a tanning tub, and that I didn't discover carrots until I harvested them out of the ground.

A cook shouldn't have to know how to farm to make carrot cake.

Also, +1 on izodex's post, it is right on.

brohammed · Post by **brohammed** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:55 am

Discovery via study window, as an option, not as the full system (there are too many things to discover, your study space would be crammed with items at the beginning when you need curio's) sounds good to me.

jorb · Post by **jorb** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:59 am

Glad that you agree. Now go and see if you can find the flaw(s) in that idea.

brohammed · Post by **brohammed** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:05 am

jorb wrote:Glad that you agree. Now go and see if you can find the flaw(s) in that idea.

Less of a downside to thieving, more incentives to alt it up (?), "am I studying this bear tooth as a curio or a discovery". Are those the downsides?

jorb · Post by **jorb** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:41 am

Shit... that was my 3000th post. What a waste.

The obvious problem is that it removes the distinction that curiosities can be put into the study inventory while other items can't. It would also make an actually developed teaching mechanic nigh on useless.

brohammed · Post by **brohammed** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:16 pm

I'm sure people would prefer an actually developed teaching mechanic, but this is just a suggestion for a "quick fix".

jorb · Post by **jorb** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:26 pm

It causes a worse problem, namely that anything can be put into the study inventory. How is one supposed to know what is and what isn't an actual curiosity?

brohammed · Post by **brohammed** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:29 pm

Presumably those that have already been discovered cannot be put into the study window, like how you can't study two of the same things currently.

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