grinder Q calcs, wiki is wrong?

[saltire]

Hi,

Built a grinder with q81 metal bars.

Wiki says metal Q is only thing that affects grinder Q and that sausage Q is 4 x average meat Q + 2 x grinder Q + guts Q / 7.

i tested this on some crappy deer meat to make a DDD.

Meat Q = 69 (all 3 pieces)
Grinder Q = (81 according to wiki, 3 x 81 bronze bars)
Intestines Q = 61 (used an old pig one)

maths : (4 x 69) + (2 x 81) + 61 = 499
499 / 7 = 71.2

The DDD came out at Q62

So either wiki is wrong and grinder Q includes wood used, or the maths is wrong.

Anyone know for sure, or did i just blow away 3 81Q bars for nothing?

[Sarge]

You probably had this covered, so apologies for stating the obvious, but just in case:

Cooking was high enough? I can't recall if Per affects sausage q

[Potjeh]

Yeah, perception matter for sausages.

But anyway, I think that the sausage formula is wrong. Doubt it's grinder, trustworthy people tested it in world 3 and wood q didn't matter then.

[saltire]

ok cooking was 120 on the char that did the grinding, perception is a softcap?

or something like sqrt of per x cooking?

[Potjeh]

Sqrt.

[Procne]

I'm the one responsible for sausage quality formula on wiki.

However it seems correct for all the sausages I made, including DDDs with different quality meat and intestines.
I know for sure that intestines have low impact on quality of sausages, because changing intestines only to the ones of quality lower by 22 resulted in sausages of quality lower by only 3-4.

And seeing that only quality of intestines seems to be lower than the product, I guess that metal grinder was indeed of lower quality than you thought it was, or indeed some other skill is capping the quality.
Could you try making different types of sausages and post results here? Maybe we can invalidate this formula and find correct one, or find real quality of your meat grinder?

[saltire]

boar baloney

3 x q61 pork
1 x q61 guts
1 x grinder made with q81 bars

cooking 103+12 (hat)
perception 25 (cooking alt)

sausage q60

[Potjeh]

Yeah, you're capping the q, your sqrt(cook*psy) is just 53.61.