I'm interested in what affects your defense bar. How is the amount of defense bar taken measured if someone punches me? Is it raw difference between UA skill?
What if someone uses Sting on me? Will the amount of defense bar I lose depend on my melee skill then?
Does damage affect any of this, meaning if I stack more STR I'll take more of my enemies defense bar with one punch (same UA)?
Thanks
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Sitting_Bill
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Re: Defense bar
def lost = attack*sqrt(attackerWeight/defenderWeight)/2
Your defensive weight is normally just your UA, unless (a) you are using shield, in which case it is 1.25*Melee; (b) you are using bloodlust, in which case it is UA/2.
The attackerWeight depends what attack they are using; different attacks have different modifiers, e.g. Valorous strike is 1.75*Melee or something, whereas punch is just UA.
As you can see, STR doesnt affect def lost. It only affects what damage you do when you have broken their def (and its effect varies depending on the attack).
Your defensive weight is normally just your UA, unless (a) you are using shield, in which case it is 1.25*Melee; (b) you are using bloodlust, in which case it is UA/2.
The attackerWeight depends what attack they are using; different attacks have different modifiers, e.g. Valorous strike is 1.75*Melee or something, whereas punch is just UA.
As you can see, STR doesnt affect def lost. It only affects what damage you do when you have broken their def (and its effect varies depending on the attack).
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Grable
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Re: Defense bar
Thanks for the answer. I believe punch is 3/4 UA now though, atleast it was last time I checked the tooltip 
What is under the variable "attack" then?
What is under the variable "attack" then?
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Sitting_Bill
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Re: Defense bar
I believe you are still confusing weight and damage, look again....
"attack" is the proportion of the attackers attack bar that is full.
"attack" is the proportion of the attackers attack bar that is full.
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Grable
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Re: Defense bar
Nope, not confusing weight and damage (I believe damage isn't even displayed in the tooltip). I might be wrong, but I saw 3/4 weight on punch. I'll check when I'm home.Sitting_Bill wrote:I believe you are still confusing weight and damage, look again....
"attack" is the proportion of the attackers attack bar that is full.
Thanks for explaining everything.
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Grable
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Re: Defense bar
My bad 
Punch damage was nerfed recently though, wasn't it?
The wiki still says 50 * sqrt(str / 10), I'm gonna guess it's 3/4 of that now? If that fist on the right side of "3/4" means 50 * sqrt(str / 10) even.
Punch damage was nerfed recently though, wasn't it?
The wiki still says 50 * sqrt(str / 10), I'm gonna guess it's 3/4 of that now? If that fist on the right side of "3/4" means 50 * sqrt(str / 10) even.
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MagicManICT
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Re: Defense bar
Then the wiki hasn't been updated.Grable wrote:My bad
Punch damage was nerfed recently though, wasn't it?
The wiki still says 50 * sqrt(str / 10), I'm gonna guess it's 3/4 of that now? If that fist on the right side of "3/4" means 50 * sqrt(str / 10) even.
Yes, but I seem to recall there was a discussion about the weight getting nerfed, too. Maybe my memory is failing me on this. (Not feeling any particular need to go dig it up, eiter. I'll take what's displayed in the client as right unless someone else says it's wrong.)Sitting_Bill wrote:
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Re: Defense bar
I'm pretty sure that the weight got nerfed as well. Could be wrong
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Re: Defense bar
It was, just more un-noted changes.bmjclark wrote:I'm pretty sure that the weight got nerfed as well. Could be wrong





