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teengames
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Re: ARSON

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killette2 wrote:
BruThoL wrote:Yay, soon mass alts in linen clothes running on enemy walls with torches! :D
Solution: Don't give starting characters torches.
Not every1 uses enders what if its a new moon when they spawn it gets REALLY dark
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teengames wrote:
killette2 wrote:
BruThoL wrote:Yay, soon mass alts in linen clothes running on enemy walls with torches! :D
Solution: Don't give starting characters torches.
Not every1 uses enders what if its a new moon when they spawn it gets REALLY dark
Light fires all around your camp or huddle around your hearth fire.
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Like it takes much to make torches... If anyone is spamming alts to burn stuff down, they've probably got the resources to make a crapton of torches, too.
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then perhaps quality of torch should be a factor of how much damage it does. and make it greater than 10 to do any damage at all, that way noobs can has torches, and people have to make new ones to burn stuff. though it wouldnt really help anyone who just outfits their alts
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Re: ARSON

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Realistically, a fire won't easily start on palisades mainly because there isn't sufficient fuel to burn on it.

Yes the wood is a fuel for fire, but most of the time its not firewood or the sort of wood that burns easily.

Then you gotta consider the climate of the village, since the game takes place in a cool environment, fires are harder to start.

There's also the humidity and fire will have a tough time starting if the village is near the coast or swamp.

Maybe make fires start-able but not burnable, at least not possible to spread if there is no flammable fuel source near the fire to make it stronger.

Also, real torches aren't just made with cloth and wood, it requires oil to soak the cloth, else the cloth will burn out really fast.

The best use you can get out of the flame torches is mainly against animals, since they fear fire and can take immense damage from them...
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Re: ARSON

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dra6o0n wrote:Realistically, a fire won't easily start on palisades mainly because there isn't sufficient fuel to burn on it.

Yes the wood is a fuel for fire, but most of the time its not firewood or the sort of wood that burns easily.

Then you gotta consider the climate of the village, since the game takes place in a cool environment, fires are harder to start.

There's also the humidity and fire will have a tough time starting if the village is near the coast or swamp.

Maybe make fires start-able but not burnable, at least not possible to spread if there is no flammable fuel source near the fire to make it stronger.

Also, real torches aren't just made with cloth and wood, it requires oil to soak the cloth, else the cloth will burn out really fast.

The best use you can get out of the flame torches is mainly against animals, since they fear fire and can take immense damage from them...
maybe barrels of wort/wiebbir could act as fuel and depending on the Q and quantity could have a radius to how much it fules
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Re: ARSON

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Well it makes sense that if you are handling fire, you are likely going to get yourself killed too, like with mining.

Tossing flammable liquid at stuff and lighting them up can be dangerous since if you are clumsy, some of those liquid would be on your character if you can't handle it well enough.

Then watch as you light it up and the flame starts to burn both the palisade and your pants with it.
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Re: ARSON

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dra6o0n wrote:Well it makes sense that if you are handling fire, you are likely going to get yourself killed too, like with mining.

Tossing flammable liquid at stuff and lighting them up can be dangerous since if you are clumsy, some of those liquid would be on your character if you can't handle it well enough.

Then watch as you light it up and the flame starts to burn both the palisade and your pants with it.
Lol then swimming would be useful (dousing the flames)
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Re: ARSON

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Onionfighter wrote:I had suggested a while ago that lighting buildings on fire be the only way to destroy them (we were having trouble with super strength characters bulldozing towns). It's too bad the idea was never used, I think it would have been a good solution, and added to the atmosphere of the game.

The idea was that instead of outright destroying a structure, it would burn for several hours before being destroyed. While on fire, it would be impossible to use the structure, but the fire could be put out with some effort, thereby saving the structure.
This would also be a way to destroy mine supports without necessarily risking your own life. For that particular case and most others it should be required at the very least to sacrifice the torch if not gather more fuel to kindle a hotter and larger flame appropriate to the destruction of the structure type. It would seem pretty unrealistic for a palisade to go up in flames by just waving a flaming piece of linen around it for a few seconds/minutes.


..also, flaming arrows, go!
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This would be the coolest ever!

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