War between the Panda and the NNN

[xXGhostxX]

What ewlol said was spoken from the heart. And so very true. Id like to say something as well. Not taaking sides this te.
Its safe to say that, this war as gone too far. And it will never end. Ever. Wipe out either side all you want. The hatred will still be there and it will carry until W6,and forever. This war, is pretty much rendered useless and not necessary.

Taking casualties on both sides will do what? Nothing. Because the same people you killed over and over will come back and do the same thing. Pointless. War needs to come to an end. Because both sides lost unnecessary shit for no reason at all.

I would just like to know what's the goal of this war exactly.

[Ravian]

What ewlol said was spoken from the heart. And so very true. Id like to say something as well. Not taaking sides this te.
Its safe to say that, this war as gone too far. And it will never end. Ever. Wipe out either side all you want. The hatred will still be there and it will carry until W6,and forever. This war, is pretty much rendered useless and not necessary.

Taking casualties on both sides will do what? Nothing. Because the same people you killed over and over will come back and do the same thing. Pointless. War needs to come to an end. Because both sides lost unnecessary shit for no reason at all.

I would just like to know what's the goal of this war exactly.

To answer your question, there is no goal anymore, its just people trying to destroy and greif the shit out of each other
I even think everyone has even forgotten what started the war...

[burgingham]

I offered peace a couple of times now. Get it, they play to kill. It is their goal in the game and nobody else could oppose their hearthvaults so they chose us as an enemy since we provide the last challenge. Those are the exact words of Quant when I asked him for a peace treaty.

[Ravian]

I offered peace a couple of times now. Get it, they play to kill. It is their goal in the game and nobody else could oppose their hearthvaults so they chose us as an enemy since we provide the last challenge. Those are the exact words of Quant when I asked him for a peace treaty.

Qant is one person burg, normally 1 person does not speak for an entire group. Most of the people i meet in NNN just want to play the damn game,
and have fun doing it

EDIT: we are not here to have another shitty fight, i think everyone is tired of them

[burgingham]

He is the spokesperson they chose to communicate with me. NNN are like 5-10 people at most whose goal is only PvP.

I usually don't condemn any PvP faction, have done it myself in w2 and I love how Nao and Valten etc are doing it now. Just not like NNN does...

Edit: if there is a more "offical" spokesperson around that I know nothing of (I know that isn't the case, but hey I won't have people say about me I didn't try) then contact me if there is any interest at all in stopping this bloodshet today.

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

This is the primary reason I am extremely hesitant to go outside or be part of the community because I would end up being absorbed into the politics and lose focus on what I am set out to do solely for my own selfish reasons of overcoming my enemies at all cost and why I do my best to try to set a good relation to anyone I speak to.

The very source of this problem can be traced into one statement: Many, if not most of us, think ourselves as players instead of testers. Players play the game for their own personal enjoyment; testers play the game to aid its development.

The reason this started off is when someone starts abusing a bug without reporting (well some hatred sparks even when the bug is abused regardless), people simply become angry and if someone sufficiently provoked enough, they can and will use abuse bug to bring down the other person. The original abusing will not hesitant to start doing the same thing right back. At this points, game breaking bugs and exploits are simply political weapons against the other side.

The only way to stop this vicious cycle is very difficult. Both side must agree to stop using abuses and exploits and even then it is going to be quite tense as neither side are sure if the other person will live up to their end of the bargain. Even then, the spark can ignite into another burning cycle with enough fuel added like this post is doing. Finally due to the nature of this game, it is very difficult to determine if one side is secretly exploiting some game breaking bug that doesn't seem obvious at first (ex. Someone on one side discover a way to raise steel quality past crucible hard cap).

For some that do abuse, the lack of negative consequences does virtually nothing to deter bug abusers. No one is capable of punishing them in-game and the developers are on hiatus status to be able to intervene at the moment.

[Shooter123]

I offered peace a couple of times now. Get it, they play to kill. It is their goal in the game and nobody else could oppose their hearthvaults so they chose us as an enemy since we provide the last challenge. Those are the exact words of Quant when I asked him for a peace treaty.

Qant is one person burg, normally 1 person does not speak for an entire group. Most of the people i meet in NNN just want to play the damn game,
and have fun doing it

EDIT: we are not here to have another shitty fight, i think everyone is tired of them

Ravian, You do not NNN, stop talking on behalf of NNN. Only you don't like fight wis Panda, becous you coward.

[Ravian]

I offered peace a couple of times now. Get it, they play to kill. It is their goal in the game and nobody else could oppose their hearthvaults so they chose us as an enemy since we provide the last challenge. Those are the exact words of Quant when I asked him for a peace treaty.

Qant is one person burg, normally 1 person does not speak for an entire group. Most of the people i meet in NNN just want to play the damn game,
and have fun doing it

EDIT: we are not here to have another shitty fight, i think everyone is tired of them

Ravian, You do not NNN, stop talking on behalf of NNN. Only you don't like fight wis Panda, becous you coward.

I am an ally of NNN because of this stupid war, and i love the PvP part of it, but its destroyed everything

[AAlex]

All the killing and raiding. I admit it's fun, But it's got to the point where it's being fueled on pure hatred between factions and players, and I think ruins the game for a lot of people.

[Valten21]

Well, I've talked to lady goo plenty of times, and she seems like a really good person, bell and Qant as well.