My thoughts on Dis and Ainran

[burgingham]

I never claimed I really know more than you. Of course you are more involved in the actual politics and day-by-day business. I know general tendencies though and one of those is the alliance between Dis and Ainran. My concern with that I discussed with Valten again today and I can try to sum it up here again:

I don't say either Ainran or Dis are ruining the game (which some seemed to believe or want to put in my mouth). I am saying that the game is severely unbalanced right now and that what the two are playing like is supported a lot by this unbalance and at the same time can ruin the game for the players that are confronted with those 2 factions. At the same time both claim to enjoy the hunt, the game as a team sport and a combat sport the most. They also stated in the past they have no personal grudges if they kill eachother. Yet they are allied now. I don't understand why they wouldn't fight eachother anymore since that was the only real challenge they had and at the same time a challenge with likeminded people who want to play the game in the same way. Now they seem to be applying a different moral to eachother and accepting an alliance. While treating the rest of the game the same and indiscrimately killing everyone by using the broken mechanics.

I hope people will accept that as my honest opinion and as an unemotional statement. This is not butthurt or anything the like, this is an observation. So please argue on the same level with me.

[ramones]

I wasn't talking about knowing more about me, I just saw you stated or directed your words against someone (I think in this thread, don't get my lazyness since I wont search for it), that you know more about things going on in this world than anyone else even that your not playing. But ok, we're over that.

Ainran has very similar playing style like Dis. Only difference I see from afar is that Ainrans are mainly hunters with few workers, while Dis has different and better organisation of stuff, that is why their industry is higher (and was also higher at end of w5 than every other faction). And since both are raiders by heart and this game is pvp, they allied. Dis has (someone can correct me here if I will put wrong numbers) 30+ people, could be 40+, Ainran had 20 at start, now I believe 10+. On other side, Poles have 40+ (or had), Portgas and his group had 20+ at least, for Koreans we all know how many there are (30+?). So saying that strongest raiders have united and no one can stand a chance against them is purely wrong statement. That is why the unbalancing and broken mechanics is something we all: me, Ainran, Dis, RoK(or their new name), AD, Polen Horde, Winterfell & other factions which I apologise not to mention, will have to accept and enjoy while we play. And believe it or not, we already accepted it and have fun and those are words that you should understand before you make another post with how broken things are

And there are only 2 people ruining the game and we both know who those 2 are

[APXEOLOG]

I don't understand why they wouldn't fight eachother anymore

Ainran has very similar playing style like Dis

Signed. Ainran guys looks like the only normal (i.e. same as me) guys in th whole game.

[burgingham]

Yeah, but with your philosophy that makes you perfect enemies. Sportmanslike competition, no butthurt, no drama.

[APXEOLOG]

Yeah, but with your philosophy that makes you perfect enemies. Sportmanslike competition, no butthurt, no drama.

Yes it is. But i don't think any side can win in this war. Each side have enough war expirience to prevent rams, security-exploits, track-kills. Game mechanics don't have anything (except bugs) to help any side. So as for me this war is useless so it's better to be friends and kill other alliances

[Anon9k]

It's all very simple: no need to bother yourself with powerful enemies if you can just dominate together.
All the words about MIGHTYPVPGODS are just words, end of w5 and w6 proved that.

[ramones]

Who was mighty pvp god in w5? And when do you see the end of w6?

[Kaios]

I am mighty pvp god, movement combat extraordinaire.

[Anon9k]

Who was mighty pvp god in w5? And when do you see the end of w6?

"end of w5" and "w6" separately.
I never saw really epic demonstration of great pvp skills by Ainran, the only interesting fight was with Bruthol, but it was interesting just because of forum discussion, not ingame battle. Also I remember story about Ainran ramming Portgas' vault when Portgas woke up and saw that his vault is full of fail, I don't remember how it ended, but it was quite funny though.
Now I see that I was quite right: they may have pvp experience, but prefer to kill noobs and have an alliance with their possible enemies. That's sad, we'll never see again real wars in HnH, just killing noobs and broken siege mechanics, nothing more.

[APXEOLOG]

That's sad, we'll never see again real wars in HnH, just killing noobs and broken siege mechanics, nothing more.

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