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Nask
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How to mine without mine supports
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WitchKiller12
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
still a chance however small to cavein with this, it's just very small <1%
also you'll definitely cave in if you hit a mine supports radius at a bad angle using this
i think eventually most people realize the best way to mine is lots of con + miners helmet or spam mine supports if they don't have the former... there's an inherent risk always looming by trying to cheat the system
also you'll definitely cave in if you hit a mine supports radius at a bad angle using this
i think eventually most people realize the best way to mine is lots of con + miners helmet or spam mine supports if they don't have the former... there's an inherent risk always looming by trying to cheat the system
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danvath
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
Also if other caveins have happened in that cave/minehole. It increases the chance of a cave in.
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DDDsDD999
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
No, and no if you mean mining into a mine support's radius.WitchKiller12 wrote:still a chance however small to cavein with this, it's just very small <1%
also you'll definitely cave in if you hit a mine supports radius at a bad angle using this
Pretty sure that's wrong too, but I haven't had confirmation on that.danvath wrote:Also if other caveins have happened in that cave/minehole. It increases the chance of a cave in.
You can't die with a miner's helm so no point in getting cons if you wear a helmet; it was implemented by loftar, it's not cheating the system.WitchKiller12 wrote: i think eventually most people realize the best way to mine is lots of con + miners helmet or spam mine supports if they don't have the former... there's an inherent risk always looming by trying to cheat the system





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Potjeh
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Avu
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
You can make it a full 3 tile wide road with this.
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bmjclark
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
You can die with a miners helm. It just does half the HHP damage it normally would, and half the shp damage. So an l5 cave in still hits for 400, and could 1 shot someone who doesn't have much const. Though, there is very little risk of dying mining on l1 or 2DDDsDD999 wrote:
You can't die with a miner's helm so no point in getting cons if you wear a helmet; it was implemented by loftar, it's not cheating the system.
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ddhoward
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
It's actually possible to safely create a 5 tile wide road without supports. I'll make a similar gif when I get around to it, but for now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2aIcKZSXt8
You must be EXTREMELY cautious about the exact tile where your hearthling is standing when mining without supports, especially when using this method.
SPECULATION: The tunneling feature seems to be based on how many mined tiles are behind the hearthling who is mining. If a hearthling is mining a tile, while standing on a mined out tile, and there is only one mined out tile behind him, then he is safe. But, if there is an additional mined tile just beyond that one, then the hearthling risks a cave-in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2aIcKZSXt8
You must be EXTREMELY cautious about the exact tile where your hearthling is standing when mining without supports, especially when using this method.
SPECULATION: The tunneling feature seems to be based on how many mined tiles are behind the hearthling who is mining. If a hearthling is mining a tile, while standing on a mined out tile, and there is only one mined out tile behind him, then he is safe. But, if there is an additional mined tile just beyond that one, then the hearthling risks a cave-in.
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WitchKiller12
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
DDDsDD999 wrote:Yes, and yes mining out of a mine support's radius.WitchKiller12 wrote:still a chance however small to cavein with this, it's just very small <1%
also you'll definitely cave in if you hit a mine supports radius at a bad angle using this
Greatly increases chances of cave ins until the cave in rocks are destroyeddanvath wrote:Also if other caveins have happened in that cave/minehole. It increases the chance of a cave in.
Miner's helmet halves damage and caveins do 50 dmg per lvl (lv 3 does 150 dmg per rock for example), you can be hit by multiple rocks depending simply on RNG.WitchKiller12 wrote: i think eventually most people realize the best way to mine is lots of con + miners helmet or spam mine supports if they don't have the former... there's an inherent risk always looming by trying to cheat the system
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danvath
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Re: How to mine without mine supports
I have tested it, once cave I can mine without supports in the said pattern, but another mine that had a cave in. I can not go out of mine supports without a cave in.