I dont actually care teck I merely found it amusing
much pras too tired to actually play, so until tomorrow my sweet addiction.
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banok2
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loftar
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
Sure, given only qualitative details, I agree that that is not a logical contradiction, but neither is, however, its negation, and I'm just not seeing it being the case in actual practice. As I said, Haven doesn't actually use all that much disk I/O. Quantitatively speaking, the whole server, along with all other processes running on it, uses on average somewhere on the order of ½-1 MB/s of write bandwidth and 1-2 MB/s of read bandwidth, and the disks are about 70% idle.Serejai wrote:I can easily see the same situation play out with Haven
Admittedly, I don't know what kind of load these kinds of hard drives are rated for, but that really doesn't seem to me as though it should be particularly straining, at all.
I dunno, but I can't say I have detected much lag at all, server-side, at least, and that's what the Lag-O-Meter on the front page measures. If there are places where the routing is subpar, that would be meaningful to debug and see if something can be done about, but I'll admit I don't really know even where to start with such a project.Serejai wrote:I'm not sure what you're saying in regards to no server side lag recently. My group has been experiencing rubber banding quite often this past week; usually around the time when Russians/Eastern Europeans begin to log on.
So what you're saying is just that Xeons are quantitatively better? That's no news to me, of course; I just thought it seemed like you were saying there was something wrong with the i7. For the record, the CPU, too, is usually quite unloaded. At the times when there are ~1400 people playing, the server process usually only uses around 35%, so I don't really see any reason to upgrade it yet, at least.Serejai wrote:@i7 question - [...]
"Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing." -- Rob Pike
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g1real
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
Ask everyone to do a tracert?loftar wrote:If there are places where the routing is subpar, that would be meaningful to debug and see if something can be done about, but I'll admit I don't really know even where to start with such a project.
loftar: The inner chaos of the Jorbian mind is hard to conceal. 
jorb: It's called creative license. You know, that thing you seem to want to apply to logic, grammar and coherence?
jorb: It's called creative license. You know, that thing you seem to want to apply to logic, grammar and coherence?
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Jackard
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKKtnSVeY9obitza wrote:wow we have an internet celebrity here!
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KajetanChrumps
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
Did you measure how much head repostioning they have to do ? This is more strain on HHD than data transfer alone.loftar wrote: Sure, given only qualitative details, I agree that that is not a logical contradiction, but neither is, however, its negation, and I'm just not seeing it being the case in actual practice. As I said, Haven doesn't actually use all that much disk I/O. Quantitatively speaking, the whole server, along with all other processes running on it, uses on average somewhere on the order of ½-1 MB/s of write bandwidth and 1-2 MB/s of read bandwidth, and the disks are about 70% idle.
Think about tuning the disk cache or even get more RAM to build a huge cache.
It's really hard to believe that all of 6 disks failed only because they were reused, especially when you say you are generally satisfied with Hetzner's performance.
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burgingham
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
Acting like you are Mr. Bigshot when really nobody gives a shit about you being a big deal in an online lego game is kind of asking for it though. You could just be helpful without pulling the...I can't believe I am writing this..."celebrity card".banok2 wrote:makes informative possibly helpful post, gets called out, proves them wrong & gloats slightly, gets called retard and asshole even by mods.
great community here
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Gauteamus
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
Amusing to see so many of the old names in one thread, So jung kommen wir nie wieder zusammen!
It seems his lego experience might be relevant to the situation at hand.
To be fair, it is not as if his claim was that he once sung solo tenor in his local church choir.burgingham wrote: being a big deal in an online lego game
It seems his lego experience might be relevant to the situation at hand.
What if Rosa Parks had a car?
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TeckXKnight
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
No one said it wasn't; people mostly just called him a dick for the way he went about it.Gauteamus wrote:It seems his lego experience might be relevant to the situation at hand.
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g1real
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
Nah, his experience with servers was relevant, not his autism skills.Gauteamus wrote:Amusing to see so many of the old names in one thread, So jung kommen wir nie wieder zusammen!
To be fair, it is not as if his claim was that he once sung solo tenor in his local church choir.burgingham wrote: being a big deal in an online lego game
It seems his lego experience might be relevant to the situation at hand.
loftar: The inner chaos of the Jorbian mind is hard to conceal. 
jorb: It's called creative license. You know, that thing you seem to want to apply to logic, grammar and coherence?
jorb: It's called creative license. You know, that thing you seem to want to apply to logic, grammar and coherence?
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burgingham
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Re: Planned downtime: Account format migration
Since when do you know German? ^^Gauteamus wrote:Amusing to see so many of the old names in one thread, So jung kommen wir nie wieder zusammen!
To be fair, it is not as if his claim was that he once sung solo tenor in his local church choir.burgingham wrote: being a big deal in an online lego game
It seems his lego experience might be relevant to the situation at hand.
Hi Gaut, nice to see you. They are all coming back as it seems.