Throw sand isn't used because your opponent can get twice the initiative back by the time you throw sand again. If you buff throw sand too much in its current state, it would become overpowered and nobody would use IP-based moves.AnnaC wrote: Also, why isn't Throw Sand ever used? If pooling up tons of IP is the problem, then why aren't more IP-attacking moves being used? Maybe buff Throw Sand to drain more IP?
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Ninijutsu
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
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NOOBY93
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
Just make it ranged and have half cooldown than thunder.Ninijutsu wrote:Throw sand isn't used because your opponent can get twice the initiative back by the time you throw sand again. If you buff throw sand too much in its current state, it would become overpowered and nobody would use IP-based moves.AnnaC wrote: Also, why isn't Throw Sand ever used? If pooling up tons of IP is the problem, then why aren't more IP-attacking moves being used? Maybe buff Throw Sand to drain more IP?
That way, in a running-away battle, the IPs would cancel each other out if one was thundering and the other was 1 thunder 1 throw sanding.

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AnnaC
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
I'm sure a balance can be found between Throw Sand being worthless and it being overpowered.Ninijutsu wrote:Throw sand isn't used because your opponent can get twice the initiative back by the time you throw sand again. If you buff throw sand too much in its current state, it would become overpowered and nobody would use IP-based moves.AnnaC wrote: Also, why isn't Throw Sand ever used? If pooling up tons of IP is the problem, then why aren't more IP-attacking moves being used? Maybe buff Throw Sand to drain more IP?
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RJT
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
How the hell do you not see the problem with thunder? You should delete your combat system guide if you don't see how thunder is unbelievably broken.Ninijutsu wrote:I still don't understand what is wrong with thunder as it is.Potjeh wrote:Hm, what if it gave IP as normal, but cost like .3 advantage?
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
Judging by the pole, only few faggots think it's broken and there really isn't a huge problem with it. Obviously there are staring contests where people just sit there calling thunder but that's not really a big deal considering you need a lot of IP too use most of the combat moves.RJT wrote:How the hell do you not see the problem with thunder? You should delete your combat system guide if you don't see how thunder is unbelievably broken.Ninijutsu wrote:I still don't understand what is wrong with thunder as it is.Potjeh wrote:Hm, what if it gave IP as normal, but cost like .3 advantage?
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[1:56:51 PM] nick marsala: for all he has done
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Ninijutsu
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
Nobody has yet explained why they think it is "broken".RJT wrote:How the hell do you not see the problem with thunder? You should delete your combat system guide if you don't see how thunder is unbelievably broken.Ninijutsu wrote:I still don't understand what is wrong with thunder as it is.Potjeh wrote:Hm, what if it gave IP as normal, but cost like .3 advantage?
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Sarge
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
@ OP
Your thoughts on how itwill probably go without Thunder is dead give away that your only combat experience/knowledge is with movement combat.Vigilance wrote:ohgodyou'resostupid
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
Argument For Movement Combat: "Hey all these combat changes are dumb and you guys are fags so please don't remove call down the thunder or else those stat grinding, mass botting, no-lifers will destroy the game"
Argument Against Movement Combat: "Hey I like these changes, now all the time I spent building up my character won't go to waste because some dude with 10 buckets of water finally got a sting on me during some lag"
Nice try everyone but in the end it's not just those for combat changes who are faggots but also those against. You're all faggots.
Argument Against Movement Combat: "Hey I like these changes, now all the time I spent building up my character won't go to waste because some dude with 10 buckets of water finally got a sting on me during some lag"
Nice try everyone but in the end it's not just those for combat changes who are faggots but also those against. You're all faggots.
Just by reading this one statement I can tell your knowledge of all things haven and hearth is quite vast.Troll13 wrote:Obviously there are staring contests where people just sit there calling thunder but that's not really a big deal considering you need a lot of IP too use most of the combat moves.
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bitza
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
why is this not one of the poll optionsKaios wrote:You're all faggots.
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Oddity
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Re: How butthurt would you be if call down the thunder was g
I would be very butt-pleased.
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