More start game foods: Jams

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More start game foods: Jams

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Start game seems very slow for food, and very annoying mid game~ late game fairly easy with cows and end game food is just spam cheese and a few other food's
But I'm here to talk about mid game. you have your base, wall's or not.
and you forage all day long. well your not a noob anymore! you should be able to make a few yumy products.

So yeah, Jam's!
They've been noted never discussed

Ever since early times there have been jams. in such haven would support a few~

Blueberry. Apple.

And it would be nice to find wild rbubard ~
rhubarb jam

Simple and easy
Now to make it mid game you can just craft jam with noting~
mid game would mean you have your house, kiln, oven and a bit of crops growing.

Go out find some sand (maybe clay also) to make a jar(or pot).
useing 2 berries ( or what ever) and a jar with a churn to make your barries.

jar of blue berrie jam would yield say 1.0 of jam for the 2 berries
grab some bread use 0.2 jam to make some "bread with blue spread".

And then I would say change pie's back to having butter again and make there FEP a little higher.
Thats just what I think. the food system and farming system need a great overhaul; alot needs to be added. regardless if it the same fep gain as other food's. just be nice for a mixture~
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Re: More start game foods: Jams

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Im all for new foods and recipes. Jams sound fun. Ill disagree on all pies needing butter. Blueberry for example does not need it and would limit an early Int. building food and make things a lot harder.
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you'd need sugar too.

It would be nice to give bread some actual use, and I agree that there should be more foods, and also that some foods shouldn't be strictly early game. fish for example.
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Arcanist wrote:you'd need sugar too.

It would be nice to give bread some actual use, and I agree that there should be more foods, and also that some foods shouldn't be strictly early game. fish for example.
you've never made wellplaiced pie, perched perch or RoB seafood? if they are made with good q crops, ovens, etc they can be competitive with a lot of the "late game"' foods, except cheese of course :lol:
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Re: More start game foods: Jams

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The problem is the lack of starting food's in this game. or in such forage food.

I find Jams would be a wide area to find more type's of low tier FEP food/or earily food type's atlest. that would give some heathlings a little project to do for food.
on another side note I find farming to easy cuz of the botting and the reward for it kinda bad.

Foraging should at the very least be a nice way to counter farming food's.

If i really get into it. there should be a way to get food from any part of the hearthlands threw foraging.
Were clearly missing root flour and bannock.
I can ramble all day about food's. I don't nessary care if forage food's are like farm food FEP.
Forage is not as easy to spam but its ultmited where farm is easy to spam but limited
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Re: More start game foods: Jams

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Cheese needs to be rebalanced then all other foods makes sense. As soon as you hit that sweet-spot where you have enough cows for cheese all foods you make in the ovens becomes useless. Infact 90% of foods becomes useless.
STR, CON, AGI, PEC and CHA all comes from cheese and requier 1/10 of the hassle to be made. DEX and PSY comes from chicken salad and cavebulb. Cow Chorizo and a few other sausages are good filler foods for the farmers and miners when quick hunger boost is needed. All other foods are as useful as RPG gamers trying rolleplay a use for them.
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Xcom wrote:Cheese needs to be rebalanced then all other foods makes sense. As soon as you hit that sweet-spot where you have enough cows for cheese all foods you make in the ovens becomes useless. Infact 90% of foods becomes useless.
STR, CON, AGI, PEC and CHA all comes from cheese and requier 1/10 of the hassle to be made. DEX and PSY comes from chicken salad and cavebulb. Cow Chorizo and a few other sausages are good filler foods for the farmers and miners when quick hunger boost is needed. All other foods are as useful as RPG gamers trying rolleplay a use for them.
wow I always got my psy from WWW and mussels(never wasted my milk on butter when cheeses are so much better)
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Xcom wrote:Cheese needs to be rebalanced then all other foods makes sense. As soon as you hit that sweet-spot where you have enough cows for cheese all foods you make in the ovens becomes useless. Infact 90% of foods becomes useless.
STR, CON, AGI, PEC and CHA all comes from cheese and requier 1/10 of the hassle to be made. DEX and PSY comes from chicken salad and cavebulb. Cow Chorizo and a few other sausages are good filler foods for the farmers and miners when quick hunger boost is needed. All other foods are as useful as RPG gamers trying rolleplay a use for them.
I am curious as to how you can get good quantities of con, agi, and per from cheese. It seems to me that although they are the best sources of Str, Int, and Cha (Int and Cha both being rarely needed at the stage you are mass producing cheese, unless I am wrong?) - there are better sources of con, agi, and perception than cheese.
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moth cam and gouda at high quality...
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SuperNoob wrote:moth cam and gouda at high quality...
Bierwurst, Honey Buns, apple pie?

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