Q26 Metal Cauldron
Q40 Water
Q10 Fuel
Creating Character Stats:
30 Dex
100 Sewing
30 Psy
Q47+47+72 Leather
Q11 Wax
=Q33 H Leather (formula gives 31)
Q47+47+72 Leather
Q12 Wax
=Q33 H Leather (formula gives 31)
Q49+49+49 Leather
Q25+28 Wax
=Q36 H Leather (formula gives 35)
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Agasi
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
Work on a mining thread for me. Here are my shitty mining notes. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31382&p=442398#p442398
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SpakyPD
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
vatas wrote:Q30 leather
Q20 Wax (20 and 21, rounded down in my experience)
Q20 Cauldron
Q39 Water
DEX 33
PSY 21
SEW 38
Hardened Leather came out Q26
Agasi wrote:Q26 Metal Cauldron
Q22 Water
Q10 Fuel
Creating Character Stats:
28 Dex
90 Sewing
28 Psy
Q9 Leather
Q10 Wax
=Q12 H Leather
Q9 Leather
Q11 Wax
=Q13 H Leather
Q9 Leather
Q12 Wax
=Q13 H Leather
All of these results match the 'old' formula.Agasi wrote:Q26 Metal Cauldron
Q40 Water
Q10 Fuel
Creating Character Stats:
30 Dex
100 Sewing
30 Psy
Q47+47+72 Leather
Q11 Wax
=Q33 H Leather (formula gives 31)
Q47+47+72 Leather
Q12 Wax
=Q33 H Leather (formula gives 31)
Q49+49+49 Leather
Q25+28 Wax
=Q36 H Leather (formula gives 35)
In addition, I noticed someone updated the wiki page about not using the craft all button. You can not use hardened leather to make hardened leather anymore. As such you can use the craft all button when making hardened leather.
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borka
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
RoB Wiki edited - "Craft all" entry
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SpakyPD
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
Clay Cauldron testing.
SEW*DEX = 28 (21*40)
Leather Q22
Wax Q24
Water Q60
Cauldron Q10 = Hleather Q21
Cauldron Q29 = Hleather Q22
So it seems that clay cauldrons can affect the quality somehow, but at a very low impact. If someone wants to try and figure out the equation taking clay cauldrons, they are welcome to it.
But for metal cauldrons, the 'old' equation works.
SEW*DEX = 28 (21*40)
Leather Q22
Wax Q24
Water Q60
Cauldron Q10 = Hleather Q21
Cauldron Q29 = Hleather Q22
So it seems that clay cauldrons can affect the quality somehow, but at a very low impact. If someone wants to try and figure out the equation taking clay cauldrons, they are welcome to it.
But for metal cauldrons, the 'old' equation works.
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SpakyPD
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
Metal Cauldron
SEW*DEX = 28 (21*40)
Leather Q28 +Q10+Q10 = Q16
Wax Q25+Q24 = Q24
Water Q60
Q20 (33+29+16+14+14+14)/6 = Hleather Q25
Q27 (34+33+33+33+15+14)/6 = Hleather Q25
Q28 (34+33+29+29+29+14)/6 = Hleather Q26
So the weight of the cauldron is proven here.
I don't see a reason why we can't put the equation:
((Softcap((QLeather + QWax)/2))*3 + (QWater +QMETAL Cauldron)/2)/4
On the wiki page.
SEW*DEX = 28 (21*40)
Leather Q28 +Q10+Q10 = Q16
Wax Q25+Q24 = Q24
Water Q60
Q20 (33+29+16+14+14+14)/6 = Hleather Q25
Q27 (34+33+33+33+15+14)/6 = Hleather Q25
Q28 (34+33+29+29+29+14)/6 = Hleather Q26
So the weight of the cauldron is proven here.
I don't see a reason why we can't put the equation:
((Softcap((QLeather + QWax)/2))*3 + (QWater +QMETAL Cauldron)/2)/4
On the wiki page.
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mvgulik
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
I'm always interested in stuff that (supposedly) proofs something.
But
And whats this?
But
seems to be missing a hardened leather end result ?SpakyPD wrote:Metal Cauldron
SEW*DEX = 28 (21*40)
Leather Q28 +Q10+Q10 = Q16
Wax Q25+Q24 = Q24
Water Q60
And whats this?
What is what here ?, and how it it related to the above data ?Q20 (33+29+16+14+14+14)/6 = Hleather Q25
Q27 (34+33+33+33+15+14)/6 = Hleather Q25
Q28 (34+33+29+29+29+14)/6 = Hleather Q26
As there seems to be no general consensus on it. Not by forum users, and not by data.I don't see a reason why we can't put the equation:
((Softcap((QLeather + QWax)/2))*3 + (QWater +QMETAL Cauldron)/2)/4
On the wiki page.
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SpakyPD
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
The three different Q's are the metal cauldron Q's.
I did the same exact craft with a Q20, 27, and 28 metal cauldron.
I read back through this entire thread, and the only results that do NOT match the equation are ones with clay cauldrons.
For metal cauldrons, the equation works for every entry.
I did the same exact craft with a Q20, 27, and 28 metal cauldron.
I read back through this entire thread, and the only results that do NOT match the equation are ones with clay cauldrons.
For metal cauldrons, the equation works for every entry.
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mvgulik
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
Roger.SpakyPD wrote:The three different Q's are the metal cauldron Q's.
I did the same exact craft with a Q20, 27, and 28 metal cauldron.
Wiki table update.
Digging into data ...
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mvgulik
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
@MagicManICT: PS: When was this data collected ?[color=#000080]MagicManICT[/color] wrote:Some more data: ...
- After OP topic start.
- Before OP topic start: W7
- Before OP topic start: W6
Just checking/verifying.
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mvgulik
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Re: Hardened Leather Quality Formula!
Well ..., as there are no other formula variations that are doing better than the first one here. Its getting my vote.
( ( SC((LeatherAvQ + WaxAvQ)/2)*3) + ((WaterQ + CauldronQ)/2) )/4
SC( LeatherAvQ*3/2 + WaxAvQ*3/2 )*1/4 + Water*1/8 + Cauldron*1/8
http://puu.sh/4rQ4K.png

SC( ( (((LeatherAvQ + WaxAvQ)/2)*3)+((WaterQ + CauldronQ)/2) )/4 )
SC( LeatherAvQ*3/8 + WaxAvQ*3/8 + WaterQ*1/8 + CauldronQ*1/8 )
http://puu.sh/4rQ77.png

( ( SC((LeatherAvQ + WaxAvQ)/2)*3) + ((WaterQ + CauldronQ)/2) )/4
SC( LeatherAvQ*3/2 + WaxAvQ*3/2 )*1/4 + Water*1/8 + Cauldron*1/8
http://puu.sh/4rQ4K.png

SC( ( (((LeatherAvQ + WaxAvQ)/2)*3)+((WaterQ + CauldronQ)/2) )/4 )
SC( LeatherAvQ*3/8 + WaxAvQ*3/8 + WaterQ*1/8 + CauldronQ*1/8 )
http://puu.sh/4rQ77.png
