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Potjeh
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Gauteamus
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q10+
Chakravanti wrote: Eh..no I like being able to add capacity. The only limiting trade factor is the inability to appraise built objects. Something that I would think will be added later unfortunately devs haven't said anything about it one way or the other.
Scenario I: The volume difference is small (200 @ q10 -> 220 @ q100)
Counterargument: what is the point? Even if I am the best troughmaker in the world I am still capable of making great troughs that fit the "market standard"
Scenario II: The volume difference is rather more tangible:
Counterargument: I can easily see this messing up, at least large scale, ranches as you cannot any longer make safety rules like: This corral with 4 pregnant cows will need 3 troughs per 24 hours, and our serfs must procure accordingly! The trough will no more be a unit of measure
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kimya
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q15+
i agree with gauteamus and potjeh.
i dont understand why the q of the through would in any way matter... if its shitty wood, you can still put perfect food in it.
and if the quality should be a measure of the size, why isnt it the same with other objects, like a cauldron, for example? it just makes things complicated...
now back to the trade:
it sounds like a fair price to me
for example, when harvesting wheat, you get 3 seeds + 1 straw; 1 seed is replanted, the rest goes into the through -> for one full through you need 200/3 tiles = 67 tiles. (that is, if the straw counts as 1 "food point" in a through, not sure if that is correct)
while for linen, you need 80 tiles.
and if youre very clever, you harvest flax, sell the cloth AND the through -> 2 bars forlittle bit more work...
i dont understand why the q of the through would in any way matter... if its shitty wood, you can still put perfect food in it.
and if the quality should be a measure of the size, why isnt it the same with other objects, like a cauldron, for example? it just makes things complicated...
now back to the trade:
it sounds like a fair price to me
for example, when harvesting wheat, you get 3 seeds + 1 straw; 1 seed is replanted, the rest goes into the through -> for one full through you need 200/3 tiles = 67 tiles. (that is, if the straw counts as 1 "food point" in a through, not sure if that is correct)
while for linen, you need 80 tiles.
and if youre very clever, you harvest flax, sell the cloth AND the through -> 2 bars forlittle bit more work...
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Shades
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q15+
Well clearly a low ql trough is just a trunk of wood you can only rest food on the top of, where as a high ql one is hollowed out because the maker had the skills to do so....kimya wrote: i dont understand why the q of the through would in any way matter... if its shitty wood, you can still put perfect food in it.
and if the quality should be a measure of the size, why isnt it the same with other objects, like a cauldron, for example? it just makes things complicated...
Of course this also implies you can only hollow out high ql wood but that is a different issue, and leads to the conclusion that a ql200 trough has tardis like storage capacity.
Rather than being a hard cap, which doesn't make much sense to me, what if food ql slowly decayed towards trough ql. Leaky, rot ridden wood would have some effect on the fodder it holds.Gauteamus wrote:I think it would be better to simply let trough q be a cap to fodder quality.
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Chakravanti
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q10+
False. The measurements cans till be 'by the trough' because the capacity would follow the standard formula. IOW, for example:Gauteamus wrote:The trough will no more be a unit of measure
Q10 = 200
Q40=400
Q90=600
Q160=800
Higher quality is simply a multiple of how many troughs are contained in one. Perhaps the Trough UI can just Display the current # of fodder contained instead of a meter. THen, we can deal with precise quantities, which is better anyway.
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Ajantis
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q15+
But we have a bar for the trough not a number, so a full trough could be a Q10 one with 200 seeds or a Q160 one with 800 seeds, we have no way to know, and this makes trough trading not possible
It would be possible if we know the Q of the trough or how many seeds/wheat are inside, like having 0/200 instead of the bar
It would be possible if we know the Q of the trough or how many seeds/wheat are inside, like having 0/200 instead of the bar
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sabinati
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q15+
the trough already holds a lot. do you really need one that holds more?
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kimya
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q15+
well, tbh it holds a lot, but those future steaks eat like there was no tomorrow! something that should be adjusted, btw...sabinati wrote:the trough already holds a lot. do you really need one that holds more?
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sabinati
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q15+
yeah i'd rather just make cows eat a little less
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NaoWhut
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Re: Buying troughs of fodder q15+
MY COWS ARE DIEING AND THERE'S GRASS
WITH THEM IN THEIR PEN STILL WTF!!???
oh, and they've eaten 10 trough fills at least
per day.
I'd appreciate it if my cows didn't gorge on
food and then starve to death 5 minutes later.
WITH THEM IN THEIR PEN STILL WTF!!???
oh, and they've eaten 10 trough fills at least
per day.
I'd appreciate it if my cows didn't gorge on
food and then starve to death 5 minutes later.

