Secrets of The Hearth

[sabinati]

I'm playing with a new char and I'm plowing fields just fine using my *drumroll* wood plow. If you are starving to death, you are doing it wrong. There is fishing, there are apple trees, there are bunnies, there are mulberry trees. If you don't have an apple tree, did you consider finding one?

Krhm... I just spent 30 minutes fishing and caught about four fish (salmon). Eating them all didn't even get my hunger bar from "very hungry" to "hungry".

dude just walk around the forest for a while and eat every spindly taproot and chantrelle you see. my guy has like 11 per and 3 exploration and i see tons of them. and 4 fish in 30 minutes? seems unlikely.

[Kasakun]

I'm playing with a new char and I'm plowing fields just fine using my *drumroll* wood plow. If you are starving to death, you are doing it wrong. There is fishing, there are apple trees, there are bunnies, there are mulberry trees. If you don't have an apple tree, did you consider finding one?

Krhm... I just spent 30 minutes fishing and caught about four fish (salmon). Eating them all didn't even get my hunger bar from "very hungry" to "hungry".

dude just walk around the forest for a while and eat every spindly taproot and chantrelle you see. my guy has like 11 per and 3 exploration and i see tons of them. and 4 fish in 30 minutes? seems unlikely.

Or find a swamp to stand in and get leeches. 1 Leech (or earthworm) = One guaranteed fish in a few seconds.

[Chakravanti]

Mats for fishing, while not impossible to find, are rather unlikely. If you are near a heath you can get chicken bones and chicken fairly easily. OTher than that you are relegated to rabbits and taproot for fishing supplies.

It's not impossible for nubs to survive. But it's excessively ridiculous. It's one aspect that indirectly further increases the already massive margin between established and newbie players.

[Kasakun]

Yes. While I found it rather fun to fight for my survival, it's quite a huge gap in terms of difficulty.

[Leonard]

Yea, I remember my beginning, where I lived in a pine forest. It was extremely hard until I got my first boat, apple tree and bow. From this time on I was "very hungry" on a regular basis, but at least I didnt starve. Now...I laugh about the thought of starving, but I still remember how stupitidly hard it is in the beginning.
Especially because you are a NOOB. They have no idea of hunting, fishing (now its even a bit complicated), how and where to get seeds or which territory is dangerous. They make mistakes, which is fine, but you shouldnt lose a weeks progress to starving. Its a game in alpha stage, but its deep and definitely needs a newbie guide now. No, the one on the wiki is old, outdated and incomplete. And no, IRC or the forums arent the best sources to ask, because you need a quick answer. We need to write a basic survival guide and sticky it, dammit.

[Haba]

dude just walk around the forest for a while and eat every spindly taproot and chantrelle you see. my guy has like 11 per and 3 exploration and i see tons of them. and 4 fish in 30 minutes? seems unlikely.

Well, obviously I wasn't fishing for hunger, nobody does that. I just wanted to point out the absurdity of the notion that one would fish to sate their hunger.

I wasn't running a fishing macro, so my fishing wasn't the most effective it can be (alt-tabbing every few minutes). And I did lose two hooks and one string in that session.

I'd say that eating chants is even worse than fishing, since picking them up consumes stamina (doesn't it?) and you do have to walk around a lot.

Personally, I would actually prefer more hard core Unreal World/Dwarf Fortress -like approach where survival itself would be a challenge. Currently hunger is just another source of annoying grind.

[Agarrett]

Yea, I remember my beginning, where I lived in a pine forest. It was extremely hard until I got my first boat, apple tree and bow. From this time on I was "very hungry" on a regular basis, but at least I didnt starve. Now...I laugh about the thought of starving, but I still remember how stupitidly hard it is in the beginning.
Especially because you are a NOOB. They have no idea of hunting, fishing (now its even a bit complicated), how and where to get seeds or which territory is dangerous. They make mistakes, which is fine, but you shouldnt lose a weeks progress to starving. Its a game in alpha stage, but its deep and definitely needs a newbie guide now. No, the one on the wiki is old, outdated and incomplete. And no, IRC or the forums arent the best sources to ask, because you need a quick answer. We need to write a basic survival guide and sticky it, dammit.

Ehem, look at my signature. I am going to make a tutorial soon on how to get established, after I get my computer fixed in a bit.

[Chakravanti]

You started that months ago and have made two videos.

[Alamarian]

I'd say that eating chants is even worse than fishing, since picking them up consumes stamina (doesn't it?) and you do have to walk around a lot.

If it consumes stamina, it doesn't take much.

[Agarrett]

You started that months ago and have made two videos.

I have a feeling that you are stalking my posts. Anyways, that doesn't mean I can't start it up again.