some conspiracy theory

[VoodooDog]

hey guys,

i had a longer chat with a friend this night who told me some unbelievable stuff. in the end i endet up at the FBI Homepage reading some now open documents who prove something the majority of ppl would not believe (i do not mean UFO's ).

nevertheless one leads to another and i ended up watching this video:

A large number of ex high ranking officials including air traffic controllers, ex secret op. officers, commercial pilots, numerous military defense specialists with top secret clearance, people who had access to very sensitive documents
lieutenants, ex commanders in the u.s airforce,
astronauts,etc...
all going before the national press club to discuss what their experiences have been regarding u.f.o's and all are willing to go before congress to testify under oath.. never before has such a group come forward..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6 ... page#t=182

so what i want to know from you is: what is your reason to not believe this?

is it a set up? are all these ppl bought, actors or what ever?

greetings

[Flame]

in the cold war, govnernment studied twins to discover if there were a sort of telepathy.
Because everything, also the weirdest theory, soon or later will be studied by science, or to say it better, by government.
Know something so much weird, is a weapon or a good secret.

So why should be weird that government is studyng ufo? And why should i feel betrayed if he's hiding it to us?
7.000.000.000 peoples aren't so easy to convince that aliens are good (if they are) or bad (if they are). it whould be a mess.

About those people, they could be all actors, or all people that trust something wrong (people do this really often), or people that have right. Who knows.

In any case, i don't feel scared or really interested. Just interested on how could i convince an alien to drink my cappuccino!! (I have to share what i love most!)
I can't write correctly english, i can't imagine myself talk the aliennyxz. XD
But i will never meet one of them so i can keep on my guessing and bablingh without harm.

[borka]

Hi Voodoo

11.02.2006 *yawns heavily*

nowadays Aliens even play HnH - they're all among us - what do you think comes the coffee boom from and legalizing maryjane

[Kathdys]

The 'UFO' thing really got off the ground (hurr hurr) when an American experimental aircraft crashed, and a local press officer (or similar) made the poor decision of explaining it away as a UFO. The 'weather balloon' excuse was the official one, created later to cover it up. It really was an man-made experimental aircraft that the armed forces could not release information about, so there really was a big cover up.

Unfortunately, the idea was planted that they were covering up something much more exotic--something that they probably wouldn't have covered up, or perhaps even been able to, if it had really crashed there. People started making false reports, inside the military, in the area, anywhere that they heard about this, even falsifying their own memories to include things they only heard about years after the fact, for decades after the event. The stories have changed over time to include corrections and added complexities, to make them seem more believable and scientific. You won't find people who haven't heard about UFOs talking about UFO sightings (except if you strain really hard to explain sightings of unusual lights and colours as UFOs, despite how many other phenomenon, natural and artificial, can cause these), and I think it'd be awfully coincidental if the only people who have alien encounters are people who dream about aliens.

Sure, that can be justified by alien mind-reading or something, but then that doesn't explain all the encounters where these people seem to only coincidentally encounter the aliens, not where the aliens purposefully came there to interact with them. Then you can also explain this as the aliens only allowing themselves to be caught in the act by those whose credibility is already damaged, but if you go that far, you have to realize that people whose credibility is already damaged probably aren't reliable witnesses in the first place. This justification makes about as much sense as 'poison isn't really dangerous, it's just when people eat poison they get hit with an invisible radiation from outer space meant to stop us from eating things that an alien supercomputer doesn't want us to eat'. (I hope I didn't just start a new conspiracy theory... this is pretty much how it happens.)

We don't have solid evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence--the SETI program is still on, among other things, and has a pretty substantial budget--but we do have a lot of research into culture-bound syndromes and the way human memory works. It's just as easy to use our scientific knowledge to explain away this idea of extraterrestrial life visiting the Great Plains as it is to speculate about things beyond our ken that could hypothetically explain the imagined phenomenon. I think that's a pretty solid indication that nothing supernormal is going on, but your mileage may vary.

We've debunked many similar myths before--zombies, fan death, etc.; North Americans aren't immune to coming up with our own scary hysterical mythology, or believing in it, or even taking it seriously into government policy. I don't think this is a hoax, but sadly, there is nothing implausible about hundreds of people deluding themselves into believing something, if they really want it to be true. And you heard the man--he really wants it to be true, it could mean unlimited clean energy and world peace, and anti-gravity technology, all for the price of making noise in public!

It's not that easy, unfortunately. No matter how much we convince ourselves, we're never going to learn how to build a magical flying saucer just by yelling at the people who gave us the SR-71 Blackbird to disclose everything they know. They're very sorry, but even they have a limited capacity to produce unmitigated, miraculous technology, and while they're keeping a lot of amazing secrets, none of them come close to the sheer scale of the those suggested in this conference--nobody can solve all the world's biggest problems just by releasing information.

@Borka: That explains a lot...

[Flame]

Oh well, sometime there are those really nice lights that moves weird and cool. Are quite interesting to look at but this should not create such a panic, imho.
Are just a nice DunnoWhat that do a dance.

I think that sometime, not everything needs a deep esplanation. Experiments? Ufo? Just light? Phisical phenomena? "Dunnowat" pomekon?

What is nice is nice.
End. XD

[Saxony4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elmo%27s_fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter

apply tinfoil directly to the forehead


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWHrPYvUo0

[MagicManICT]

Despite all the claims and stories, we have no direct evidence of anything. All we have is anecdotal leanings towards something not of this earth. Me, I'm a believer. The universe is too big otherwise (assuming what we know about the universe is correct).

I spent some time out in the Nevada desert. I saw some stuff out there that was really strange. If it was experimental aircraft, it was moving way too fast for anything based on technology that I'm aware of. (I have seen an SR-71 in flight as a stationary observer. That's approximately 2.5-3x faster than the speed of sound for cruising.) I'll allow for some stuff from skunkworks, but this was more like watching dragonflies flitter around a pond, but at what looked to be a good 10-15 or more miles distant. At least, it wasn't within a good quarter mile of my location at the time, so someone faking a light show probably isn't the answer.

Can't help but hear this song with this stuff comes up: www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk

[Niza]

what this has to do with Haven & Hearth at all ?

[borka]

This *hicks* is the Inn

[Jesus_Smith_Nandez]

So it was the Jews all along...

I knew it....