Game Development: A Far Green Country

[Óðinn]

Actually it's P2W in a much simpler way. It's simple: if you buy gametime, you get to put in more time = faster progress. If I don't pay, but go free to play, I'm advancing less quickly and thus I will ultimately always get fucked in the ass by a guy that paid more money to advance more.

It ruined the former 'balance' where your status was directly related to the amount of time you put in (or bots, whatever) and directly links it to money you put into the game. This is ultimately a somewhat good bussiness move for Jorbtar. Obviously if I get put behind the people who actually PAY, I'm gonna either walk away from the game or pay. And any payment they get is probably good. That's why they set it up.

But gameplay wise it's shit.

[Ragnar214]

Well I'm having fun with it. Suit yourselves, ciao!

[jorb]

lol, sit and watch the devs panic. You are being snide and arrogant, and you are angry that people don't appreciate it.
You just go ahead and dismiss all legit suggestions and criticism. Why was I expecting better of you.

Oh, yes, the panic is strong now for sure.

[Industrial]

Couldn't you guys just have gotten a patreon? I'm sure you'd be getting a lot of money if you allowed people to pay you per patch.

You'd have motivation to work on the game and players would have motivation to pay you, since they'd only pay when new content arrived.

https://www.patreon.com/

I'm sure you put a lot of heart in this game, and I'd like to see you rewarded for it, but I don't think this is the way.

[mentalyll]

Delet

[Lyllianna]

I live in Hawaii (can't afford the airfare to move someplace cheaper). I work, my husband works, and my oldest works. My bills include rent, food, landline phone (can't afford a cell) and internet (only because I got a good onetime deal with my phone) and I still have zero discretionary $. I understand the need to support yourself and I love this game even if I can only play occasionally; however, I simply cannot afford the pricing as it stands. I will never be able to afford any kind of subscription. I would be willing to pay a onetime fee even if I was only limited to around 60 to 80 hours a month. Your pricing as it stands now and coming with little or no warning is too steep and 12/24 hours for free time a month is just not enough to accomplish anything tangible that won't be quickly destroyed by in game griefers.

I am sure there are a lot of people (some of whom are even having tantrums) who are in similar situations. I (we) wish you well and hope that as this pay system slowly grinds HnH2.0 to a slow death you will rethink your payment structure to take into account ALL economic situations and not just your own.

[nytrael]

What does $15 get you here? Some unlimited time in an unfinished game. Final Fantasy 14 was free to play for a year while they fixed that because that game was bad. It could run and there were stable servers.
Haven & Hearth doesn't have stable servers and is in an ALPHA stage and it is also running on a slow client that crashes constantly. There are also hackers and bots. That is not worth $10 a month. Other companies can actually offer help support, anti cheating systems, stable servers and clients for $10 a month.

The server is stable right now, though. I am actually impressed at how well it has been holding up under the circumstances.

Don't ignore the problems that haven't been solved. Just because one thing is solved doesn't mean the rest of the problems don't exist.

[jorb]

You have no right to tell me how to feel about your shitty decisions.

... can you see why I'm maybe not so upset about losing you as a player?

Take a chill pill. Play the game, try it out. If you don't like it then go do something else. No need to be all edgy.

It's all good.

[hawkflak]

lol, sit and watch the devs panic. You are being snide and arrogant, and you are angry that people don't appreciate it.
You just go ahead and dismiss all legit suggestions and criticism. Why was I expecting better of you.

Oh, yes, the panic is strong now for sure.

fuck you

[Undefined]

What does $15 get you here? Some unlimited time in an unfinished game. Final Fantasy 14 was free to play for a year while they fixed that because that game was bad. It could run and there were stable servers.
Haven & Hearth doesn't have stable servers and is in an ALPHA stage and it is also running on a slow client that crashes constantly.

Hence Haven & Hearth needs the support of player's financial contribution in order to move forward as quickly and strongly as possible.
It's simple for Square Enix to provide a year of free access, pay for 100 Chinese support bots and bandwidth and not sweat it, two indie devs don't have that capability and so need an alternate solution.

The store balance needs work and I'm confident it'll be revised over time but for now as Jorb eloquently explained earlier it doesn't really matter, a couple of 100 subs would enable H&H to improve at a significantly higher speed than if it were free.