Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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hawkflak wrote:
jorb wrote:
mentalyll wrote:lol, sit and watch the devs panic. You are being snide and arrogant, and you are angry that people don't appreciate it.
You just go ahead and dismiss all legit suggestions and criticism. Why was I expecting better of you.
Oh, yes, the panic is strong now for sure.
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nytrael wrote:Don't ignore the problems that haven't been solved. Just because one thing is solved doesn't mean the rest of the problems don't exist.
Sure. Don't assume that there is a bunch of problems just because either, though.

I try to keep an open mind on the subject myself. :)
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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I am curious though, Jorb, why a sub and not different options? An announcement about this plan and a discussion on it would have also taken away a majority of the backlash, and perhaps avoid the entire situation you face now, perhaps. (Though people would be upset either way)
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jorb wrote:
nytrael wrote:Don't ignore the problems that haven't been solved. Just because one thing is solved doesn't mean the rest of the problems don't exist.
Sure. Don't assume that there is a bunch of problems just because either, though.

I try to keep an open mind on the subject myself. :)
can i hbave some money.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Undefined wrote:
nytrael wrote:What does $15 get you here? Some unlimited time in an unfinished game. Final Fantasy 14 was free to play for a year while they fixed that because that game was bad. It could run and there were stable servers.
Haven & Hearth doesn't have stable servers and is in an ALPHA stage and it is also running on a slow client that crashes constantly.
Hence Haven & Hearth needs the support of player's financial contribution in order to move forward as quickly and strongly as possible.
It's simple for Square Enix to provide a year of free access, pay for 100 Chinese support bots and bandwidth and not sweat it, two indie devs don't have that capability and so need an alternate solution.

The store balance needs work and I'm confident it'll be revised over time but for now as Jorb eloquently explained earlier it doesn't really matter, a couple of 100 subs would enable H&H to improve at a significantly higher speed than if it were free.
That's why these two indie devs need to become more than two. They have to hire more employees to work on the game.
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There were so many logical monetary systems that would have worked and excelled for both the devs and the players.
How disappointing.
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I bought a subscription I sent you a PM please respond to me
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Vaulxis wrote:I am curious though, Jorb, why a sub and not different options? An announcement about this plan and a discussion on it would have also taken away a majority of the backlash, and perhaps avoid the entire situation you face now, perhaps. (Though people would be upset either way)
One could argue that we should have announced it beforehand. We didn't announce anything else, though, so we figured it could be fine as a package deal, I guess. I mean... if you try the game I think I can assure you that there is at least some sugar thrown in with the sour.

Perhaps not enough. Time will tell.
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nytrael wrote: That's why these two indie devs need to become more than two. They have to hire more employees to work on the game.
Not really, That's not how development works.
But if it were they'd need some monies to hire people wouldn't they?
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