hawkflak wrote:fuck youjorb wrote:Oh, yes, the panic is strong now for sure.mentalyll wrote:lol, sit and watch the devs panic. You are being snide and arrogant, and you are angry that people don't appreciate it.
You just go ahead and dismiss all legit suggestions and criticism. Why was I expecting better of you.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country
It is nice to rest your weary bones from time to time. It is nice to lay down your burdens. It is nice to have a seat.
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Sure. Don't assume that there is a bunch of problems just because either, though.nytrael wrote:Don't ignore the problems that haven't been solved. Just because one thing is solved doesn't mean the rest of the problems don't exist.
I try to keep an open mind on the subject myself.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country
I am curious though, Jorb, why a sub and not different options? An announcement about this plan and a discussion on it would have also taken away a majority of the backlash, and perhaps avoid the entire situation you face now, perhaps. (Though people would be upset either way)
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can i hbave some money.jorb wrote:Sure. Don't assume that there is a bunch of problems just because either, though.nytrael wrote:Don't ignore the problems that haven't been solved. Just because one thing is solved doesn't mean the rest of the problems don't exist.
I try to keep an open mind on the subject myself.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country
That's why these two indie devs need to become more than two. They have to hire more employees to work on the game.Undefined wrote:Hence Haven & Hearth needs the support of player's financial contribution in order to move forward as quickly and strongly as possible.nytrael wrote:What does $15 get you here? Some unlimited time in an unfinished game. Final Fantasy 14 was free to play for a year while they fixed that because that game was bad. It could run and there were stable servers.
Haven & Hearth doesn't have stable servers and is in an ALPHA stage and it is also running on a slow client that crashes constantly.
It's simple for Square Enix to provide a year of free access, pay for 100 Chinese support bots and bandwidth and not sweat it, two indie devs don't have that capability and so need an alternate solution.
The store balance needs work and I'm confident it'll be revised over time but for now as Jorb eloquently explained earlier it doesn't really matter, a couple of 100 subs would enable H&H to improve at a significantly higher speed than if it were free.
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There were so many logical monetary systems that would have worked and excelled for both the devs and the players.
How disappointing.
How disappointing.
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I bought a subscription I sent you a PM please respond to me
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One could argue that we should have announced it beforehand. We didn't announce anything else, though, so we figured it could be fine as a package deal, I guess. I mean... if you try the game I think I can assure you that there is at least some sugar thrown in with the sour.Vaulxis wrote:I am curious though, Jorb, why a sub and not different options? An announcement about this plan and a discussion on it would have also taken away a majority of the backlash, and perhaps avoid the entire situation you face now, perhaps. (Though people would be upset either way)
Perhaps not enough. Time will tell.
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Not really, That's not how development works.nytrael wrote: That's why these two indie devs need to become more than two. They have to hire more employees to work on the game.
But if it were they'd need some monies to hire people wouldn't they?
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