Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Cece
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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it's actually is an issue when your community never thought it would shift to a pay to play model while waiting 2 whole years for a release, i am disappointed to hear this as soon as it releases instead of hearing it from the start so i could be ready to suscribe for it and i thought haven wasn't going to go the wrong path like salem did but at this point haven is going to end up worse, im not going to risk losing 10-15 dollars for a game that is unlikely to be successful as a p2p model. i suppose this game is trying to end up like pc graal online, perhaps it will shift to f2p with cash shop once enough quits :roll:
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Cece wrote:it's actually is an issue when your community never thought it would shift to a pay to play model while waiting 2 whole years for a release, i am disappointed to hear this as soon as it releases instead of hearing it from the start so i could be ready to suscribe for it and i thought haven wasn't going to go the wrong path like salem did but at this point haven is going to end up worse, im not going to risk losing 10-15 dollars for a game that is unlikely to be successful as a p2p model. i suppose this game is trying to end up like pc graal online, perhaps it will shift to f2p with cash shop once enough quits :roll:

Such a party pooper. I've already got 6 friends that are considering playing and paying. They're just waiting for more stability is all
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Ragnar214 wrote:
Cece wrote:it's actually is an issue when your community never thought it would shift to a pay to play model while waiting 2 whole years for a release, i am disappointed to hear this as soon as it releases instead of hearing it from the start so i could be ready to suscribe for it and i thought haven wasn't going to go the wrong path like salem did but at this point haven is going to end up worse, im not going to risk losing 10-15 dollars for a game that is unlikely to be successful as a p2p model. i suppose this game is trying to end up like pc graal online, perhaps it will shift to f2p with cash shop once enough quits :roll:

Such a party pooper. I've already got 6 friends that are considering playing and paying. They're just waiting for more stability is all
good for you, opinions differ
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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skyfish19 wrote:Hows it pay 2 win? Its a subscription.. Like other Pay 2 Play MMO's.
You can't do anything against those who have sub. No one will want you in their village and you will be forever together with all the weak players because you are nothing comaired to 24h playing beast who paid. So yeah, you can say it's play 2 play or free 2 play but at the end, it's really pay 2 win.[/quote]

LOL No it's pay to play.

Man I am going to take a lesson from this for my game. Never let anyone play ANYTHING for free.

Some loyalty haha. God its 6 ****ing dollars a month. Anyone here complaining has played FOR FREE since the game came out or close to it. Though I'm sure there are those who donated too. But anyone that would have donated I'm sure isn't complaining lol[/quote]


I know it's pay 2 play but anyway, you can't do anything to anyone if you don't buy extra game play. That is what I meant.

month of Game Time, $15.00: Add to cart
3 months of Game Time, $39.00: Add to cart
6 months of Game Time, $66.00: Add to cart
12 months of Game Time, $108.00: Add to cart

6 dollars?[/quote]

So everyone pays minimum 72 USD dollars for 1 year anyone who pays more doesn't get any advantage at all. Just a fancier hat! I still am failing to see the problem here.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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loskierek wrote: good for you, opinions differ
Except that right there are 6 people plus myself willing to pay. So the idea of the game dying I don't really see as concrete. It's a good enough game and you're all bashing the one thing that can make it better. A Sub Fee.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Ragnar214 wrote:
loskierek wrote: good for you, opinions differ
Except that right there are 6 people plus myself willing to pay. So the idea of the game dying I don't really see as concrete. It's a good enough game and you're all bashing the one thing that can make it better. A Sub Fee.
6+ you and your opinion against most of community and our opinion. I am not saying i wouldn't pay. But make it maybe 5$ + shop with crap like changing skin and stuff like that and i am in. I am earning hardly 2$ per hour and working one day to buy sub seems like a bad idea to me.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Ragnar214 wrote:
loskierek wrote: good for you, opinions differ
Except that right there are 6 people plus myself willing to pay. So the idea of the game dying I don't really see as concrete. It's a good enough game and you're all bashing the one thing that can make it better. A Sub Fee.
Yeah I bought the verify and will sub once I used all the 70+ hours, I am really really confident that haven will gain more and better playerbase. :P
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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loskierek wrote:
Ragnar214 wrote:
loskierek wrote: good for you, opinions differ
Except that right there are 6 people plus myself willing to pay. So the idea of the game dying I don't really see as concrete. It's a good enough game and you're all bashing the one thing that can make it better. A Sub Fee.
6+ you and your opinion against most of community and our opinion. I am not saying i wouldn't pay. But make it maybe 5$ + shop with crap like changing skin and stuff like that and i am in. I am earning hardly 2$ per hour and working one day to buy sub seems like a bad idea to me.
2$ an hour from where?
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Ragnar214 wrote:
2$ an hour from where?[/quote]

try working in poland.
3,76883475 PLN = 1$
and average hourly income is no more than 8.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

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loskierek wrote:
Ragnar214 wrote:
loskierek wrote: good for you, opinions differ
Except that right there are 6 people plus myself willing to pay. So the idea of the game dying I don't really see as concrete. It's a good enough game and you're all bashing the one thing that can make it better. A Sub Fee.
6+ you and your opinion against most of community and our opinion. I am not saying i wouldn't pay. But make it maybe 5$ + shop with crap like changing skin and stuff like that and i am in. I am earning hardly 2$ per hour and working one day to buy sub seems like a bad idea to me.
If by most community you mean bot accounts with few posts and bad attitude plus not willing to support game development, then perhaps it's not the community we are looking to have.

If you are earning 2$ an hour and you are having a hard time affording 10$ game a month, then it means you are not willing to give away 5 hours of work in exchange of 1 month of game. Time is money right.

Interestingly you are very willing to play hafen hours and hours per day, meaning you lose time so effectively you are losing money every single day.

Playing hafen is a bad idea either way in your situation, I'm truly sorry to point it out.

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