Is there some sort of starting guide out there?

[pretzelguy1]

I'm just wondering if there's been any sort of starting guide thrown together yet. I've got a decent idea of what to do since I played the original Haven and Salem but those were quite a while ago and I'm finding myself progressing very slowly. Thanks!

[MagicManICT]

Gather things, buy skills, raise stats with FEPs. The basics are still the same. You might try looking at the old beginners guide for a refresher. Looks like the forums ate it, but you might get a cached version off Google. I hope this link works: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us If not, "Sevenless beginner guide haven" should bring it to top.

[Sevenless]

Gather things, buy skills, raise stats with FEPs. The basics are still the same. You might try looking at the old beginners guide for a refresher. Looks like the forums ate it, but you might get a cached version off Google. I hope this link works: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us If not, "Sevenless beginner guide haven" should bring it to top.

The start is give or take identical to Haven 1.0, but I agree it feels much slower. What took me 3-4 hours in Haven 1 took me 6-8 hours this time around it feels. Int feels much harder to get, perception easier.

The only piece of advice that feels different from what I gave was that fishing is quite a nice source of LP early and is probably the most profitable non-incremental skill. 150LP per fish species discovered and butchered (I guess the increased variety of things is really helping there). Raiding ants and using the waste larva to fish seemed to be doing the trick.

[RickyRio]

Int feels much harder to get, perception easier.

I have had the opposite problem. how have you been getting PER?

[CTheRain]

Int feels much harder to get, perception easier.

I have had the opposite problem. how have you been getting PER?

Fish and elderberries. Especially fish...

[Sevenless]

Int feels much harder to get, perception easier.

I have had the opposite problem. how have you been getting PER?

I guess that might be reasonable. Elderberries and Blackberries were early game PER, and depending on with what you fish and where PER can be tolerable. However, at the time I completely slammed my hunger bar capacity for those early PER gains, and in retrospect with a better sense of the food system I might have done things differently. Once you get fishing + lake shallow + various ants as bait int is pretty easy to get. Trick was finding out that combo I guess.

But if you don't have blackberries in your biomes, you're in trouble for PER I agree. That was just how world gen treated me.

[Denkar]

using the waste larva to fish

Personally I find chickens to be much more common than in old Haven, so using your useful larvae instead of chicken entrails seems like a huge waste.

[Sevenless]

using the waste larva to fish

Personally I find chickens to be much more common than in old Haven, so using your useful larvae instead of chicken entrails seems like a huge waste.

Very biome specific. There's lots of places where you won't ever see a chicken basically since the biomes are so gigantic.

But even so, agility/con are not nearly as important in days 3-5 for beginners are int and per. So you eat the aphids, fish with the larvae/pupae. I easily get 2-3 bait per anthill raided as well as curios.

Also worth noting: In shallow lakes at least, insects catch int fish while entrails don't seem to. Bait+location+time of day(? Old system had this, not confirmed here) determines what species you can get.