He is talking about the pre-nerf anvil, the one we made with bugged coal.ElGato wrote:you talking about the anvil I've been using?Chakravanti wrote:Like getting 200k/whack on that uber pre-nerf ancil.
200k lp? haha
it gives no more to make a q145 bronze plate on that thing then it does my q154 one.
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burgingham
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jorb
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There has been a fair amount of bugged items in circulation even after our server-wide quality reduction. There was a bug with the cauldron that allowed the Q on water to be increased, and we were unaware of it at the time of the reduction. Although I have taken some limited measures to try and contain the damage, I have not been successful in doing so. As of now we have no way of determining who has bugged items, nor to what extent they exist. Items affected by the niebelung-coal are at this stage impossible to separate from the market in general.
I do not see a map reset serving a purpose at this stage. This world has been doomed at least since the bugged coal first got in to the system. I suggest people play this game with full knowledge that there will be a reset at some point, and try to get whatever fun they can out of this world while we're still in it. At some point we will be taking a new combat system into this world, and it'd be nice if we could get some meaningful feedback on that before we move on to a new world. (I'd rather discover bugs and issues here -- where it obviously matters less -- than when people have been investing time and effort in a new world)
Everyone needs to understand clearly that we are in the process of developing this game. We are still changing fundamentals, and while we are still doing that I can only advise against investing time into the game that you can't afford to "lose". If you have fun playing the game as it is, by all means do so -- we love having players, and we love getting feedback.
I do not see a map reset serving a purpose at this stage. This world has been doomed at least since the bugged coal first got in to the system. I suggest people play this game with full knowledge that there will be a reset at some point, and try to get whatever fun they can out of this world while we're still in it. At some point we will be taking a new combat system into this world, and it'd be nice if we could get some meaningful feedback on that before we move on to a new world. (I'd rather discover bugs and issues here -- where it obviously matters less -- than when people have been investing time and effort in a new world)
Everyone needs to understand clearly that we are in the process of developing this game. We are still changing fundamentals, and while we are still doing that I can only advise against investing time into the game that you can't afford to "lose". If you have fun playing the game as it is, by all means do so -- we love having players, and we love getting feedback.
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Avu
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A q 250 metal saw is not impossible to determine that it's bugged. You just like taking the lazy way out.
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a man need only strike another to make him evil."
no righteous man raises his hand against the innocent,
a man need only strike another to make him evil."
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Potjeh
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I wouldn't be opposed to another worldwide q reset, just make sure you get *everything* (inventory items, buildable objects, trees).
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jorb
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Which is why I spend 8-10 hours on Friday nights, after a full work week, developing computer games until 8 a.m. in the morning.Avu wrote:You just like taking the lazy way out.
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Avu
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Doing things that you like and doing things that need to be done are such different concepts though. People never seem to get lazy doing things they like. Fixing things is not something you like and that is clear.
"Since all men count themselves righteous, and since
no righteous man raises his hand against the innocent,
a man need only strike another to make him evil."
no righteous man raises his hand against the innocent,
a man need only strike another to make him evil."
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Peripheral
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Avu, you do realize the game is in alpha, right? Its not supposed to be perfect, and its not supposed to seem finished. Seriously, almost every post I've seen from you is about you bitching about the game. Calm down bro 
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Avu
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I have been raided 7 or 8 times in this game by people abusing all the shit that is wrong with this game and they have done the same to pretty much every other group of people who are able to test the higher levels of technology in the game with a single a exception. I don't blame them because they are doing it because they can. I do blame jorb and loftar though for allowing it to happen in the first place. And they will continue to do so in the future. Mines are running out and with no reset in sight they will be pretty much gone at some point and no new people will be able to achieve higher technology levels (and even if they do somehow they will get visited). By not fixing the current system they are basically saying there is no real reason to keep testing it because the results of the higher tech systems will be presented by that group of people that has been griefing all the others and is been known to abuse bugs. If they trust that feedback well good luck to them the point of a public test is gone.
"Since all men count themselves righteous, and since
no righteous man raises his hand against the innocent,
a man need only strike another to make him evil."
no righteous man raises his hand against the innocent,
a man need only strike another to make him evil."
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Potjeh
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I do agree that they should add a shitton of new grids. The Russians have zero chance of finding mines for themselves. And since the full set of needed measures to balance the broken PvP is at least half a year in the future, they should at least get a shot at security through obscurity. I think 10x10 supergrids would be big enough to hide.
