What do Substance, Essence, and Vitality all mean

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raybon256
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What do Substance, Essence, and Vitality all mean

Post by raybon256 »

Can someone let me know what this means by quality? Is it like the average or something?
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Re: What do Substance, Essence, and Vitality all mean

Post by shy_ronnie »

i would also like to know this
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Re: What do Substance, Essence, and Vitality all mean

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bump +sticky
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They're different metrics of quality, with each affecting the item in different ways. I believe it's been determined for food, at least, that one increases FEPS, one decreases the amount of hunger it provides, and I think the third was associated with satiations? I don't quite remember, but that seems to be the idea.
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Re: What do Substance, Essence, and Vitality all mean

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I believe Vitality is quality.
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this is why salem sucks. Get rid of this essence substance crap, and bring back quality for all!
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Re: What do Substance, Essence, and Vitality all mean

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They all have different purposes for different things.
  • -Curiosity LP gain is determined by the average of the 3, using the old quality formula (there is some trunaction somewhere in the calculation)
    -The FEPs of all foods (or certain, I have not gone in depth just yet) are determined by the third quality
    -Stat bonuses on items (some or all, not checked yet) are determined by the second quality
I would appreciate any data anyone has on specific foods or equipment for more testing (PM me).
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Re: What do Substance, Essence, and Vitality all mean

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+1 bring back quality, there is such a thing as over-complicating things
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MightySheep wrote:+1 bring back quality, there is such a thing as over-complicating things
Personally I think it adds a lot of potential for meaningful differences in items produced by different groups. It might wind up just being an increased grind but I think we need some time to feel it out rather than just calling for a return to the old system.
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I'd like jorbtar to at least explain this mechanic so we understand what needs to be balanced.
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