The metal industry feels like this cookie clicker game

[Avu]

Good to know I'm ordering torches made.

[jorb]

I'll consider it.

All this leniency...

[Ukhata]

you CAN light firebrands from a fireplace....

how does that work, exactly?

you make sure the fireplace is full of wood, then you right click a branch on the fire....
thats all

[burgingham]

Good to know I'm ordering torches made.

Save me one till tonight.

Smelt rates really do feel a little low btw. So many smelters with 0 bars... Or are there hidden mechanics in place here? Some skill determining how many bars come out?

[spectacle]

Loftar, did you copy paste the values for mining as full nature in old have to be the default values in 2.0?

[Sevenless]

Loftar, did you copy paste the values for mining as full nature in old have to be the default values in 2.0?

Each ore has its own smelt rate.

I think the problem is specifically the two soft ores beginners can find. Iron ochre is frustrating, heavy earth makes you feel like you're wasting your time.

Can't say what the later ores are like cause I can't find/mine em yet.

[Undefined]

I think a lot of it is perception too. In H&H if you did mining with a no industry character you were an idiot because your ore -> metal rate was frustratingly low. We're all no industry now so all ore mining is at that same frustratingly low level.

[Kaios]

Has anyone made a torch yet? They seem very expensive. Do they last hours? If they last minutes not worth it.

I made one yesterday, they last at least an hour or so if you just let them go but are easily refuel-able using tar. Lighting a torch still requires a fire. You can use the torch to light anything but to keep the torch lit requires it to be on your cursor or equipped. Putting it back in your inventory or dropping it on the ground/in a container causes it to go out.

[Sevenless]

I think a lot of it is perception too. In H&H if you did mining with a no industry character you were an idiot because your ore -> metal rate was frustratingly low. We're all no industry now so all ore mining is at that same frustratingly low level.

Until you've smelted some bloodstone I think it's called? It's not worth talking about the bar rate of "all ores". I hear some of the rarer/higher tier ones are very good.

But the low tier ores are indeed a little too shitty atm.

[Undefined]

Ahh I've only tried Ochre, it's good to know there's better though if that's confirmed.