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Kaios
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Re: So I verified....
Yeah you have nothing to worry about using Enders then, honestly it sounds like something unrelated to Haven altogether if it was a preauthorized charge to your account.
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Orcling
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Re: So I verified....
And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.shamus wrote:Kaios wrote:You still didn't say if you use any custom client or notshamus wrote:Just trying to connect the dots. Just a hassle to deal with.
Enders.....used it in Salem for years. No key loggers on computer. Only software downloded was hafen and ender client in last month or so. CCard was also recently replaced. I'm thinking someone saw the transaction on paypal and is within PayPal's system. Transaction was labeled as "preauthorized".
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shubla
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Re: So I verified....
Yeah, and using payppal you can get your money back easy. Using some other shit doesnt prevent keyloggers. Idiot.Orcling wrote:
And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.

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Orcling
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Re: So I verified....
Whats a keylogger gonna do with a one-time-use paysafecard code? Your mobile phone number? Call you and whisper naughty things in your ear?shubla wrote:Yeah, and using payppal you can get your money back easy. Using some other shit doesnt prevent keyloggers. Idiot.Orcling wrote:
And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.
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shubla
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Re: So I verified....
Its not paypals fault. Thats like you'd be saying that poop tastes bad and this is why you should kill all people because bananas are yellow but not always.Orcling wrote:Whats a keylogger gonna do with a one-time-use paysafecard code? Your mobile phone number? Call you and whisper naughty things in your ear?shubla wrote:Yeah, and using payppal you can get your money back easy. Using some other shit doesnt prevent keyloggers. Idiot.Orcling wrote:
And that is why paypal is utter shit and we should move onto better payment options asap.

I'm not sure that I have a strong argument against sketch colors - Jorb, November 2019
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Orcling
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Re: So I verified....
Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.shubla wrote: Its not paypals fault.
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loftar
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Re: So I verified....
As Jorb said, we don't actually handle any sensitive information ourselves, so it is hard to imagine how your problem would be in any way connected to Haven.
As for PayPal sucking, we're still working to get Xsolla working, but the administrative part of the process seems to be taking its time.
As for PayPal sucking, we're still working to get Xsolla working, but the administrative part of the process seems to be taking its time.
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shubla
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Re: So I verified....
I think it was OP's fault. Because he was stupid enough to get credit card at first place.Orcling wrote:Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.shubla wrote: Its not paypals fault.

I'm not sure that I have a strong argument against sketch colors - Jorb, November 2019
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Procne
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Re: So I verified....
It's entirely the reason paypal is popular - because those methods are popular. It would be stupid for them to not support most common methodsOrcling wrote:Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.shubla wrote: Its not paypals fault.
For me Paypal offers additional layer of security, without having to submit my credit card or bank account data
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shubla
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Re: So I verified....
Exactly, its completely users fault if he is dumb enough to download keyloggers.Procne wrote:It's entirely the reason paypal is popular - because those methods are popular. It would be stupid for them to not support most common methodsOrcling wrote:Its entirely paypals fault for allowing only antiquated, easily abuseable payment methods.shubla wrote: Its not paypals fault.
For me Paypal offers additional layer of security, without having to submit my credit card or bank account data

I'm not sure that I have a strong argument against sketch colors - Jorb, November 2019
http://i.imgur.com/CRrirds.png?1
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