Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

[MrBunzy]

Top keks were had. Thanks for the play time on my shitty alts

[Okocim]

To be honest the free one month feel depressing. Work we have put into building our village is gone, time we spent to do it is wasted.
It's like getting nothing, we had active subscription anyways, It's not like getting time to rebuild, it won't make our day 48h long. It won't make the steel making faster, won't make animal taming and breeding faster.
It's huge setback for us.
Starting almost from scratch.

[DaniAngione]

I've always wondered what would developers would do if someone abused bugs. Well I guess we today found out. Also how did you guys find out about this bug if one one in the forums report it? Does the game itself reports bugs if so... never mind I thought what's the purpose of the bug section then, but still how would you guys find out about a certain bug if no one reports it?

Three minutes later I receive a very detailed report about the bug in question from a member (Headshot) of the village (Core) having found the bug and presently using it for raiding. The report was very detailed.

They did get reports, but not public ones on the forums, just that.

As for your other question, I can't really tell but what I could guess with my experience in programming is that they might be able to track a lot of the activity and probably have a way to point out/investigate suspicious behaviors on the server. That is generally pointless without proper reports, though. Thing is, you don't have to discover the bug to report it, sometimes you can be a victim of a bug and point it out so further investigation can be done

[Tonkyhonk]

On the lines of restitution, it should generally be considered uncharacteristic of us to do any at all. Trying to reconstruct what things have looked like a few hours earlier is impossible to do with any accuracy anyway, and is always fraught with danger. It should preferably not even be seen as a precedent, but rather us just feeling slightly generous this time.

you seriously think one free month is a restitution for the players who love this game and already paying? of course its better than nothing at all, but cant you at least give them some curio to get back on feet, their char sheets should have their status recorded and not like you could gain stats after death. im sorry but i really dont understand what you find this generous. and im sorry im taking this out on you, but cant help it.

[satinembers]

So did they make an actual crater? It certainly looks that way to me. Now that's some wrathful justice!

[MagicManICT]

By the way, I'd suggest creating some sort of divine temple to place on top of that new mountain so the hearthlings from all over the land can walk there on a pilgrimage for blessings and bug fixes.

So you've never seen any of the other memorials that have been left around the world?

[Necroliter]

On the lines of restitution, it should generally be considered uncharacteristic of us to do any at all. Trying to reconstruct what things have looked like a few hours earlier is impossible to do with any accuracy anyway, and is always fraught with danger. It should preferably not even be seen as a precedent, but rather us just feeling slightly generous this time.

you seriously think one free month is a restitution for the players who love this game and already paying? of course its better than nothing at all, but cant you at least give them some curio to get back on feet, their char sheets should have their status recorded and not like you could gain stats after death. im sorry but i really dont understand what you find this generous. and im sorry im taking this out on you, but cant help it.

There is no death refunds in permadeath game like haven, even if death was partially caused by a bug, this is still alpha (and quite early one). I can understand this position.

I say partially, cause the villagers was not armed and strong enough (or not organized) to defend themselves from raiders. Walls are only one layer of protection, second being your character and it`s combat skills.

[MagicManICT]

I say partially, cause the villagers was not armed and strong enough (or not organized) to defend themselves from raiders. Walls are only one layer of protection, second being your character and it`s combat skills.

All well and good, but didn't I read in the locked "Core" thread that one person logging in was killed before he even got a chance to fight back? All dem skillz...

[Tonkyhonk]

There is no death refunds in permadeath game like haven, even if death was partially caused by a bug, this is still alpha (and quite early one). I can understand this position.

I say partially, cause the villagers was not armed and strong enough (or not organized) to defend themselves from raiders. Walls are only one layer of protection, second being your character and it`s combat skills.

alpha or not is never the point when they advertise this as "eternal alpha" anyways.
im not talking about "killed by a bug", im talking about "victims of bug abuse". there was a precedent.

[Astarisk]

I say partially, cause the villagers was not armed and strong enough (or not organized) to defend themselves from raiders. Walls are only one layer of protection, second being your character and it`s combat skills.

All well and good, but didn't I read in the locked "Core" thread that one person logging in was killed before he even got a chance to fight back? All dem skillz...

None of us at Church had any idea about it when we got killed, Assumed you would be safe in your village free of wall jumps, but it goes to show how low some people are still capable of resorting to in this game.