@portgas,
im glad to hear you arent affected, but i dont see it the fault of france alone, the real blame needs to be placed upon those who actually decided to do it. but if anything, its the fault of all the ex-imperial states who put the world into this situation and us all who havent managed to do anything with the adverse legacy...
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Tonkyhonk
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Darruin
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims in France
Such a tragedy that didn't need to happen. It shouldn't have happened. I really hope this is not a common scenario in our future because what a terrifying thought.
It's easy to see the value of liberalism, but it seems in our current time some of us fail to simultaneously be aware of it's risks. When we open the floodgates to intertwine our cultures there may be differences in belief, in how we spend our free time or even in what we view as fundamental human rights. In it's ambiguous nature, Islam has no place in civilized societies as long as it can be misinterpreted and used for evil as it so often does. Even if groups such as ISIS are comparatively a small branch, Islam is still the tree it grew from. If it was my decision all religions would be outlawed as they seem to poison the mind of normal people, and Islam just happens to be a particularly strong poison.
It's easy to see the value of liberalism, but it seems in our current time some of us fail to simultaneously be aware of it's risks. When we open the floodgates to intertwine our cultures there may be differences in belief, in how we spend our free time or even in what we view as fundamental human rights. In it's ambiguous nature, Islam has no place in civilized societies as long as it can be misinterpreted and used for evil as it so often does. Even if groups such as ISIS are comparatively a small branch, Islam is still the tree it grew from. If it was my decision all religions would be outlawed as they seem to poison the mind of normal people, and Islam just happens to be a particularly strong poison.
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims in France
Hello, thanks for your kind thoughts.
No victim on my side.
As a french i'm deeply angry against our governments since ... lot of years, that i consider no more than traitors to their people.
(and i think the same for U.S gvt).
But for now the time is to destroy, so we should see more deads in the near future.
I can tell you that french people are usually calm and gentle, but with this mass murder a lot of people will vote extremist. In history we're not really the people to disturb too much... and not the least of assholes.
AND they attacked my favorite cambodgian restaurant. That will not be tolerated.
(gradouble)
No victim on my side.
As a french i'm deeply angry against our governments since ... lot of years, that i consider no more than traitors to their people.
(and i think the same for U.S gvt).
But for now the time is to destroy, so we should see more deads in the near future.
I can tell you that french people are usually calm and gentle, but with this mass murder a lot of people will vote extremist. In history we're not really the people to disturb too much... and not the least of assholes.
AND they attacked my favorite cambodgian restaurant. That will not be tolerated.
(gradouble)
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Tonkyhonk
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims of terrorism
@Darruin,
yeah, it really shouldnt have happened and it shouldnt happen any more, but we know its not that easy to stop.
one thing, i dont see islam or religion as its culprit. its usually the people who use religion or politics for their benefits or excuses.
@Chevredoux93,
glad to hear youre safe. i hope your favorite cambodian restaurant can restart their business soon.
changed the title so that players in other countries dont feel neglected because it is never the intention. i hope ny and dc can stop the announced attacks.
yeah, it really shouldnt have happened and it shouldnt happen any more, but we know its not that easy to stop.
one thing, i dont see islam or religion as its culprit. its usually the people who use religion or politics for their benefits or excuses.
@Chevredoux93,
glad to hear youre safe. i hope your favorite cambodian restaurant can restart their business soon.
changed the title so that players in other countries dont feel neglected because it is never the intention. i hope ny and dc can stop the announced attacks.
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Grable
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims in France
What do you mean by thisTonkyhonk wrote:its the fault of all the ex-imperial states who put the world into this situation and us all who havent managed to do anything with the adverse legacy...
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Tonkyhonk
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims of terrorism
is it my english thats not understandable or...?
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Grable
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims of terrorism
What do you mean by ex-imperial states (and how is it their fault) and adverse legacy (unfamiliar with the term, to be honest)?
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Tonkyhonk
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims of terrorism
britain, france, russia, america and such are responsible for the current state for the middle east situation historically (and japan for asia), is my opinion, and im not sure if "adverse legacy" was a proper term but i meant like negative legacy or the wrong things done in the past. feel free to disagree, but im not going to try and convince you for my reasoningGrable wrote:What do you mean by ex-imperial states (and how is it their fault) and adverse legacy (unfamiliar with the term, to be honest)?
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Grable
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims of terrorism
I mean, you do realize that Middle East was a shit place even before these imperial nations?Tonkyhonk wrote:britain, france, russia, america and such are responsible for the current state for the middle east situation historically (and japan for asia), is my opinion, and im not sure if "adverse legacy" was a proper term but i meant like negative legacy or the wrong things done in the past. feel free to disagree, but im not going to try and convince you for my reasoning
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Tonkyhonk
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Re: Deepest condolence to the victims of terrorism
i really dont remember learning about any paradise like state in ancient time, and even a relatively peaceful one like edo was also shit inside. that said, please feel free to post your opinionGrable wrote:I mean, you do realize that Middle East was a shit place even before these imperial nations?