I have seen a lot of this going on, including lots of very uncool things like bashing stockpiles and trashing 'worthless' loot for no reason.
My discussion point is :
I see that Jorb and Loftar are trying to monetize the game (subs) which I think is a good thing and a natural progression of the game development. How do they hope to achieve a good income stream when new players are murdered by people with 300+ stats or people using alts so their mains get away with murder? The player base is very very low and I constantly see raided newb camps.
I understand raiding and pvp, including a hardcore death penalty are part of this game and I am against things like safe zones for newbies, but perhaps there is a way to help new players along without killing them until they can compete? I think we'd all agree that more herthlings in the herthlands is good for everyone, pvper and bear alike.
If you kill all the newbs, you are killing your own content, you are killing the game.
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evangili
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
agree. maybe a good tutorial video would also be good? or a msg popping out during your first log in sayin: check sevenless guide and "video" to understand the game better. quest system seems pretty nice btw
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jk123
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
Maybe keeping your attributes after death too (does this happen already? I remember dying a few years ago and only got back 25% or so of my attributes).
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vatas
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
That was in Legacy and it was changed because people abused it in conjunction with ancestor prayer that gave you portion of your ancestors' stats. Well prayer's aren't in Hafen atm but maybe devs wanted to emphasize permadeath aspect.jk123 wrote:Maybe keeping your attributes after death too (does this happen already? I remember dying a few years ago and only got back 25% or so of my attributes).
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shubla
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
Content of this game is noobs and objective is to kill them all.
When you have succeed in objective you have won HnH.
This can be made easier by griding QL for weapons and crops so you can develop your noob killer chars better.
And kill other players that are trying to win this game.
When you have succeed in objective you have won HnH.
This can be made easier by griding QL for weapons and crops so you can develop your noob killer chars better.
And kill other players that are trying to win this game.

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Mealenor
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
you can't win this game.shubla wrote:Content of this game is noobs and objective is to kill them all.
When you have succeed in objective you have won HnH.
This can be made easier by griding QL for weapons and crops so you can develop your noob killer chars better.
And kill other players that are trying to win this game.
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MightySheep
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
Why do people keep repeating this argument, like anyone actually gives a crap?jk123 wrote:If you kill all the newbs, you are killing your own content, you are killing the game.
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barra
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
If you want to protect bambis from bandits, step up and do it. Find the murderers and raid them back. You have access to exactly the same pvp mechanics the raiders have.
loftar wrote:You do appear to need a good trolling.
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overtyped
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=45877jk123 wrote:I have seen a lot of this going on, including lots of very uncool things like bashing stockpiles and trashing 'worthless' loot for no reason.
My discussion point is :
I see that Jorb and Loftar are trying to monetize the game (subs) which I think is a good thing and a natural progression of the game development. How do they hope to achieve a good income stream when new players are murdered by people with 300+ stats or people using alts so their mains get away with murder? The player base is very very low and I constantly see raided newb camps.
I understand raiding and pvp, including a hardcore death penalty are part of this game and I am against things like safe zones for newbies, but perhaps there is a way to help new players along without killing them until they can compete? I think we'd all agree that more herthlings in the herthlands is good for everyone, pvper and bear alike.
If you kill all the newbs, you are killing your own content, you are killing the game.
something like this, is the best we can hope for.
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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jk123
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Re: Raiding and murder of newbs for lols
You will give a crap when there are no more players.MightySheep wrote:Why do people keep repeating this argument, like anyone actually gives a crap?jk123 wrote:If you kill all the newbs, you are killing your own content, you are killing the game.