It's slang, who cares. Regionalization of words and adding individually meaningful connotations is common and normal in all language. Both 'Newbie' and 'Noob' are recognized words in the English language and any arbitrary distinctions you add or don't add to them are fine until you expect others to do the same, then you need to enforce meaning. Though I suppose that's what you're trying to do here, enforce arbitrary connotation to add distinction.
Though to answer your question, yes there are multiple iterations of the word without additional meaning that spawned simply because they can when you mix enough cultures together. To say that nub, noob, newbie, newb, n00b, and all variants must have independent definitions is desperately clawing for meaning when slang is just slang mang.
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Re: misusing the word noob
A little off topic, I know, but I've always wanted to do this ever since I saw you.. xPTeckXKnight wrote:Stuff
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Re: misusing the word noob
I didnt know the difference so thanks. I didnt grow up with English as my first language which I assume is also true about a lot on this forum. Guess that's how some of the meaning of words get changed. Even English/Americans dont always agree on meaning of words (smiles due to fond memories of an English and an American arguing on skype about language)
I always loved that Puzzlepirates newbies had a green colour on their name till they had played enough. So they were Greenies
I always loved that Puzzlepirates newbies had a green colour on their name till they had played enough. So they were Greenies
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Re: misusing the word noob
Fuck you.
I use words as I want, noob!
Please no ban. I dont really want any harm to OP
I use words as I want, noob!
Please no ban. I dont really want any harm to OP

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Re: misusing the word noob
TheLoli wrote:*throws a pokeball at!*
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synaris
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Re: misusing the word noob
sneezer banana cogs. hippie do right feel cloudy.TeckXKnight wrote:It's slang, who cares. Regionalization of words and adding individually meaningful connotations is common and normal in all language. Both 'Newbie' and 'Noob' are recognized words in the English language and any arbitrary distinctions you add or don't add to them are fine until you expect others to do the same, then you need to enforce meaning. Though I suppose that's what you're trying to do here, enforce arbitrary connotation to add distinction.
Though to answer your question, yes there are multiple iterations of the word without additional meaning that spawned simply because they can when you mix enough cultures together. To say that nub, noob, newbie, newb, n00b, and all variants must have independent definitions is desperately clawing for meaning when slang is just slang mang.
makes no damn sense does it? because if there is no consensus for what words mean, then everyone has their own unique language and no one can understand anyone else.
also stop putting words in my mouth, im not trying to add different meanings to each individual spelling of those words. im stating the meaning of newbie and all variations of, and noob and all variations of.
and if the whole point of your post is, "It's slang who cares?" meaning you don't care so no one should, why bother posting at all? sounds like you DO care if your putting forth the effort into posting.
Newbie and noob do not mean the same thing.
Neither do figuratively and literally.
Neither do figuratively and literally.
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Re: misusing the word noob
Connotation, diction, syntax, and definition are all very different. A word can work in a sentence and exist in a language without being imbued by further implications. Removing syntax and diction to construct a nonsense sentence or two doesn't change that.
I'm not putting words in your mouth, your opening post literally said, "do you actually believe we needed to invent two words to describe a new player? newbie and noob?" And the answer is yes. I elaborated with further examples that grew out of small insular communities. It's entirely possible that you were within a region or subgroup that added a distinction to them but the broader language doesn't share your definition. So once again, it's slang who cares.
I don't say who cares in a tone of 'Language must be entirely organic and never touched by anyone ever' or 'I am distancing myself from this argument and everyone else has to too.' I'm saying the distinction you're trying to draw is arbitrary and dumb. It's attempting to draw from a vague nostalgic past that was poorly defined.
I was there when we started calling people nubs instead of noobs at CS tournaments nearly two decades ago. There was no rhyme or rhythm, no deeper reason or purpose. We did it because it sounded stupid and got the exact same point across. It was an insult and it was meant to call the other players green.
I'm not putting words in your mouth, your opening post literally said, "do you actually believe we needed to invent two words to describe a new player? newbie and noob?" And the answer is yes. I elaborated with further examples that grew out of small insular communities. It's entirely possible that you were within a region or subgroup that added a distinction to them but the broader language doesn't share your definition. So once again, it's slang who cares.
I don't say who cares in a tone of 'Language must be entirely organic and never touched by anyone ever' or 'I am distancing myself from this argument and everyone else has to too.' I'm saying the distinction you're trying to draw is arbitrary and dumb. It's attempting to draw from a vague nostalgic past that was poorly defined.
I was there when we started calling people nubs instead of noobs at CS tournaments nearly two decades ago. There was no rhyme or rhythm, no deeper reason or purpose. We did it because it sounded stupid and got the exact same point across. It was an insult and it was meant to call the other players green.
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MagicManICT
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Re: misusing the word noob
Back in my day, we used words proper. You kids and your lazy ways corrupt everything and too stupid to realize the difference. ![Trollface ¦]](./images/smilies/troll.gif)
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Re: misusing the word noob
The people who will read this post and care are not the people who are doing the hating/hunting in the first place. What we say in this thread won't change their behaviour. Due to the nature of this game people make their own rules, for better or for worse.
I'll admit I've made a couple posts on topics like this in the past though. Fly on, Icarus.
I'll admit I've made a couple posts on topics like this in the past though. Fly on, Icarus.
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Re: misusing the word noob
the thing is the prime example of a noob is TrollEx aka childhoodobesity13
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