Types of Punishments for Botting

[Kalacia]

Hel was the correct place for this. It was a good discussion at the start... but it got derailed with people just bitching about each other point of view.

Felt like a text version of Jerry Springer.

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

It would be more ideal to cut off the off topic part into hel and retain the discussion. Anyhow, let's get back on topic as requested. I took a bit of liberty to pull some of the on topic post to quotes here so so we have a base to continue discussion.

Auto curio is low level automation. I would hardly class that as a bot...

Define the difference between auto digging to level ground. You press "dig" once, then leave your char till you run out of stamina.
That is automation within game. If this was not in the default client, would we call this is botting?

But as i have mentioned before, in this thread. There is no clear definition of what a bot is in this community.

Are we looking at any level of automation that is not included within the game client? Or automation that circumvents a a set amount of human interaction? Or something that needs no human interaction at all?

So far all i hear about botting is that its bad, people don't like it. But there is no definition of it, define botting. Then we can set community guide lines around what levels of "botting" or automation we will accept as fair play. We can then put this to Jorbtar and see what they think/say.

The same technology and programming that people use to bot, would be the same used to generate NPCs. Maybe this is the reason we do not have NPCs in an open client game. (ill go alter my own NPC thread with this, as its just dawned on me this...)

I'll make my stance clear, and say that I'd perhaps respect a botter that makes his life easy and makes macros for his tasks while still keeping an eye on his robot slaves. Hell, i'd find it impressive to see someone essentially playing starcraft with 4 windows open that he tabs through and sends SCV bots to do tasks. What I do instead find tasteless is fully automating it, and that's where the line is drawn between putting a one time effort into making the bot in the first place and then having it work for you forever. Furthermore one person might put the effort in once and somehow justify the resources gained by 50 instances of said bot used by his entire village. Now I don't care how hard you want to defend your right to spend your effort coding and get rewards that way, the input/output is simply too imbalanced. So no, your ability to code doesn't give you the right to push it as far as starting a starcraft game, quitting then spectating and letting the AI control your faction. The fact that you can do that only reflects on the game's lenient nature and Jorbtar's lack of resources in fixing that to any extent. Hopefully they find a way to fix it, or at least make the gap between botters and actual players smaller, because if you can let something work for 50 hours constantly after 5 hours of coding then seriously just code 50 hours and make a tiny fraction of a better haven-like game Cause you sure as hell ain't playing Haven anymore.

[Granger]

Hel was the correct place for this. It was a good discussion at the start... but it got derailed with people just bitching about each other point of view.

Why not just ignore them?
Or in case they are that stupid in your view then add them on your foe list - then you won't see them anymore in the forum.

[Carebear]

Hel was the correct place for this. It was a good discussion at the start... but it got derailed with people just bitching about each other point of view.

Why not just ignore them?
Or in case they are that stupid in your view then add them on your foe list - then you won't see them anymore in the forum.

If you are going to resurrect this then it belongs in the Inn since it has nothing to do with development.... unless the Devs have changed their position?

[Pickard]

Special offer!
We send our bots to your enemies village till then they got nuked.
Cheap! Reliably!
Punch that bastards in the face!

[No_name_noob]

It will be playing stupid to nuke of village for just one bot. If 75% of the village is botting however...

[DDDsDD999]

This thread was a mistake.