Rl’yeh is sinking, hasn’t reached the bottom yet

jordancoles · Post by **jordancoles** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:27 pm

jorb wrote:We're going to look at this tonight and say something about it.

sxasaaa · Post by **sxasaaa** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:34 pm

Archiplex wrote:
I don't know what a 'fitting' punishment would be, but if this situation is treated as a bug abuse, then it wouldn't be right to simply let them go without punishment.

No bugs were involved.

Archiplex · Post by **Archiplex** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:55 pm

sxasaaa wrote:
Archiplex wrote:
I don't know what a 'fitting' punishment would be, but if this situation is treated as a bug abuse, then it wouldn't be right to simply let them go without punishment.
No bugs were involved.

That's jorb's judgement, not yours.

sxasaaa · Post by **sxasaaa** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:57 pm

Yours is shit.

Also foki1 you've been buried! No problem, buddy.

infectedking · Post by **infectedking** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:12 pm

jorb wrote:We're going to look at this tonight and say something about it.

DIVINE INTERVENTION!!!!! DO IT.

foki1 · Post by **foki1** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:18 pm

sxasaaa wrote:Also foki1 you've been buried! No problem, buddy.

Thanks, appreciate it.

strpk0 · Post by **strpk0** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:25 pm

Minehole abuse for raiding purposes has happened many times in the past already. If anything, it's their fault for not knowing better.
I do personally agree it's a retarded mechanic that needs to be fixed, but it's also a retarded mechanic that many of us are used to by now. I don't see why anyone should be nuked for anything like this. It's "clever use of mechanics" (as dumb as that sounds, I know), not bug abuse.

And guys, please stop being so butthurt. Learn from your mistakes and move on.

mietzi94 · Post by **mietzi94** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:29 pm

strpk0 wrote:Minehole abuse for raiding purposes has happened many times in the past already. If anything, it's their fault for not knowing better.
I do personally agree it's a retarded mechanic that needs to be fixed, but it's also a retarded mechanic that many of us are used to by now. I don't see why anyone should be nuked for anything like this. It's "clever use of mechanics" (as dumb as that sounds, I know), not bug abuse.

And guys, please stop being so butthurt. Learn from your mistakes and move on.

you should stop being so retarded. Nobody is talking about a minehole abuse. Go read the thread and then answer.

strpk0 · Post by **strpk0** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:31 pm

ChildhoodObesity wrote:We walked into the village got the charterstone name,
Inherited an alt into the village,
Walked alt to our main village,
Fed it icicle, got vandalism,
Placed minehole on alt,
Went up minehole!

?
How is this any different to the olden-worlds methods of spawning alts in your enemy's village and doing exactly the same thing described above?

pedorlee · Post by **pedorlee** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:32 pm

Not 100% sure if its bug or a mechanic abuse, but its clear as water than something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

What is happening here its an obvious abuse and a faits accomplis or foregone conclusions.
Let me explain because this is the way it allways happens.

1. A faction ruled by veterans find a way to bypass an intended mechanic or rule devs state for something. I.e : Raids must be done with rams or catapults. Moles can no longer just open doors and kill everybody.
2. Instead of comunicating this to the devs they use it to get an insulting advantadge and get a victory. They get the goods and kill their enemies while the rest of the heartling follow the rules and the intended behaviour set by devs.
3. When the rest of players complain about it they allways say the same:
-Without this the game won't get better and someone evil will use in a future or a present to get rid of their enemies.
-Rewards are not enough-lol
4- Actually they are the ones abusing it and geting the gains.

If those people had any will to make the game better their way of acting should be completely different, and in fact they are the ones not caring even an inch to improve the system.

In this case, and DIS one with their megashield, what we've got is a bunch of people abusing and raping the legal system of this game because its not existant and as it looks to me is not just arbitrary: its weak at its most.

My solutions are:
1. Because there isnt a legal system setup Devs should forget retroactivity and impart common sense as it were a law.
2. Punish those who abuse with the maximum strenght acordingly to what they have done. Eye for an eye, Talion law if you prefer it.
3. Legislate and create a new rule system stating what will happen.

With this a precedent will be created in order to balance the world, and from now on whoever do the sin will know what abides. Even if its obvious.

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