Who Are You Voting For?

[Jalpha]

I say otherwise, and let me explain my reasoning.

Firstly let's start with non-male. Instantly we have a population bias against men. We don't even need to throw non-cis or non-white into the equation.

Technically wouldn't that make a lot of the things you say (the labels, the generalisations) a form of discrimination?

That's not true. Only white, straight, imperialist males are capable of discrimination.

I had perhaps neglected to consider that logic and reasoning is not a prerequisite of belief.

[GenghisKhan44]

I had perhaps neglected to consider that logic and reasoning is not a prerequisite of belief.

*sigh*
Alas, if only they were.

I was going to post a succinct Thomas Aquinas quote, but nothing he says is succinct. Thankfully, his "mentor" Aristotle is:

"The intellect dominates the appetite by a politic and royal power."
In other words, sadly, the intellect can be rebelled against because the emotions and cravings are partially free to do so.

[Burinn]

It's a shame you made yourself out to be so ignorant with your first line, you make a compelling argument.

Disagreeing with what you said is ignorant? Honestly, I would've been shocked if you had said anything otherwise. I'm pretty sure I've seen bots that give more effort in pretending to be human. It's like you're just copy pasting radical feminist rhetoric. Hence, why techx is confused as to whether you're trolling or not. Maybe logic isn't your forte.

If all it takes to be a "radical" is saying the Pope covered for child molesters or that POC and non-cisgendered people are more likely to be discriminated against; you live in a totally different world than me. I'm sorry if I don't have the privilege of seeing things the way you do, but none of those things make me radical in any sense of the word. Even if I were, what would that matter? I'm sorry, this is why you're ignorant.

[Acefirebird]

Who are you voting for in the upcoming election, and why is it Bernard Sanders from Vermont?


If you live anywhere other than the United States, why would you vote for Bernie Sanders?

I'm voting for myself. I got my friends to join in I think I have a chance!

[MagicManICT]

Now we're in the phase of 'I'm the only real democrat, Sanders isn't a democrat.' Holy shit, how disconnected can you fucking be. I don't give a flying fuck if there's a D next to your name, I give a shit about what you want to do in office. That's the motivational power behind the Sanders campaign, people believe he'll actually do something in office.

Hehe... yeah. the left have had to come so far right that someone like Clinton looks to be more conservative than Nixon ever was. (And probably as corrupt.)

Also, glad to say I never voted for Obama. I knew that he'd never win my state so felt confidence throwing my vote to a 3rd party just to speak out.

[MightySheep]

I said earlier in the thread that anything less than Bernie Sanders winning the election is a disservice to America and a concession that corporate America owns the government.

I love that logic "EITHER MY FAVORITE CANDIDATE WINS OR THE WORLD MUST CLEARLY BE CONSPIRING AGAINST ME".

Bernie seems like a good choice to me too at first. His intentions are good. He genuinely wants to fix income inequality, but being President requires more than just good intentions. It's clear at this point that Bernie is so far to the left that he is living in cuckoo land and his policies look like something a teenager would come up with "unlimited taxes on the rich, no taxes at all for the poor!" hes basically just a commie bastard. Capitalism doesnt work like this. This kind of policy would just ruin the economy which impacts the poor more than anybody, which completely defeats the purpose. It's simple: If you squeeze the life out of companies and force all the job creators to move abroad then the economy will suffer and you will have less money in the pot to spend on things like schools, health services, welfare etc. If he really wants to help the poor then he should be focusing on economic success. It would be nice if the world was as simplistic as he seems to think it is.

You need to #MAKEAMERICAGREATAGAIN then maybe youll see the changes you want to see. Put Trump in charge, he will get America making profits once more instead of letting countries like China walk all over you, then you will see the return of the american dream, where anything is possible. He'll have you guys on mars 1st year in office ISIS will try to fly plane into Trump tower and the middle east will be nuclear wasteland before they even take off. I can't wait, it will be glorious.

[MagicManICT]

FYI, corporate America owns the government no matter who wins. So you get a president that hasn't really touched corporate money because he's a senator from one of the smallest states in the Union... doesn't change how lobbying and campaign financing, as well as advertising and such goes on. It's one man that is responsible for only one third of the government.

You need to #MAKEAMERICAGREATAGAIN then maybe youll see the changes you want to see. Put Trump in charge, he will get America making profits once more instead of letting countries like China walk all over you

Quit buying cheap crap and iphones and shit, and china won't have anything to sell to us.

Also... implying that the US isn't already great... HA! If anything, this has been the line of the democrats since Bush was in office.

Also, what makes America great?

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"*

It certainly isn't uselessly wasting money closing off borders and building walls.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus

[Burinn]

Also, what makes America great?

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"*

It certainly isn't uselessly wasting money closing off borders and building walls.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus

Well stated. I think everyone should be keeping this in mind come November.

[Jalpha]

I think clinging to the tattered threads of a past long gone is one of the reasons the US isn't great anymore. From what I've seen of it the place is stagnant and rotting, suburbs of the superpoor seperated from suburbs of the superrich by a street, more homeless than I've seen anywhere in the developed world and populated by people who are hopelessly patriotic and fearful of the rest of the world to the point of seeming fascist.

Sure there's some good history to build on, but where is your country headed? A lot of other countries seem from my perspective to be doing quite well and it wouldn't take much for the states to become a third world nation.

[Ysh]

It wouldn't take much for the states to become a third world nation.

This is not possible by definitions.