Bottleneck Griefed

[Raephire]

Here's a solution, partially build regular fires behind cabins so NOBODY can hid hearthfires there. TADA

[Potjeh]

He literally declared that from now on, he would wall in anyone that has a hidden hearth.

Anyone with a hidden that appears to be a thief. Unless I come up with a better way to communicate to such people that I don't want them in my cabin. Honest question: what would you have done in my shoes? I'm aware that my reaction needs improvement, so any reasonable suggestions are welcome.

[Hamel]

Apparently you missed the "not" part of what I said. I said I am not sure it was the best course of action.

That was a jab at you telling me that my actions were a bad idea. What I did was a consequence of his actions. Walling someone in when your part of a huge community that they can easily wall back.. Not a good idea, and kind of an obvious consequence.

What you did was your action, not Potjeh's. Don't blame the person who wronged you for making you want to get revenge.

Yeah forcing someone to have to wait 20+ minutes before they can start playing again is only grieving. Also you guys called Loftar to fix half the stuff in less than 20 mins after you discovered you were being walled in.

As Adam says, it was a precaution. Most likely to prevent the possible thief from being mobile before he could speak with him.

I thought we killed two of your throw-away alts. Whatever, I probably should have said, the punishments we have dealt unto you, and punishments we have yet to deal out.

I figured you would prefer that we forgive you rather than continue to kill you on sight for the rest of your H&H playing career. Some of us dwarvish folk have been known to hold grudges for extremely long periods of time.

If you killed 2 people you killed someone who was not me. And I already explained the part where you don't know who I am.

I assume the person whom Adam slew was probably a different criminal, in that case. At least I hope so.

Also, we know exactly who you are. Because, if you have not noticed, you posted these last few posts on your main account.

So naturally you decided to hurt many innocents in an attempt to convince one person not to do something. This is what is inexcusable. Also, stop referring to us all as "B12", B12 this, B12 that. We are individuals, not some sort of hive-mind.

Did I really hurt anyone? I pissed off a few people, but Loftar has already removed most of what I have done. Which leads us back to your second point. Apparently I did nothing wrong since it could easily be removed, you just have to wait a bit.

You hurt us as much as Potjeh hurt you, mildly inconvenienced. You could always ask Loftar or Jorb to remove the fires around your hearth.

[ybobjoe]

He literally declared that from now on, he would wall in anyone that has a hidden hearth.

Anyone with a hidden that appears to be a thief. Unless I come up with a better way to communicate to such people that I don't want them in my cabin. Honest question: what would you have done in my shoes? I'm aware that my reaction needs improvement, so any reasonable suggestions are welcome.

I already answered what I would have done. And Wandering Monk is dead if you haven't noticed.

As Adam says, it was a precaution. Most likely to prevent the possible thief from being mobile before he could speak with him.

Riiiight, even with the 20+min wait, it is still unlikely to talk to them in that time. Like I said it's just grieving.

Also, we know exactly who you are. Because, if you have not noticed, you posted these last few posts on your main account.

Ok then who am I? I usually use this username to debate on forums anyways and it has nothing to do with any of my ingame characters nor have I done differently on these forums. I only used theThief because that is what people referred to me as on these forums and since the community is so small. I'd never use my ingame name as my accountname.

You could always ask Loftar or Jorb to remove the fires around your hearth.

I already said I'd rather not ask them, besides it would be hard to explain my hearths location and whatnot =/

[Hamel]

As Adam says, it was a precaution. Most likely to prevent the possible thief from being mobile before he could speak with him.

Riiiight, even with the 20+min wait, it is still unlikely to talk to them in that time. Like I said it's just grieving.

Hey, it worked didn't it?

Also, we know exactly who you are. Because, if you have not noticed, you posted these last few posts on your main account.

Ok then who am I? I usually use this username to debate on forums anyways and it has nothing to do with any of my ingame characters nor have I done differently on these forums. I only used theThief because that is what people referred to me as on these forums and since the community is so small. I'd never use my ingame name as my accountname.

Sure, we don't know who your characters are, yet, but we can now link your characters with you in the future.

You could always ask Loftar or Jorb to remove the fires around your hearth.

I already said I'd rather not ask them, besides it would be hard to explain my hearths location and whatnot =/

I guess your character will just be stuck forever then.

[Malicus]

Now, I'm not getting involved in this, but... this...

Riiiight, even with the 20+min wait, it is still unlikely to talk to them in that time. Like I said it's just grieving.

"Grieving" != "griefing". </grammar_nazi>

[ybobjoe]

Now, I'm not getting involved in this, but... this...

Riiiight, even with the 20+min wait, it is still unlikely to talk to them in that time. Like I said it's just grieving.

"Grieving" != "griefing". </grammar_nazi>

but but my autospell check tells me that griefing is not a word T.T

[Malicus]

Spellchecking software often doesn't care about terms invented for gaming or the internet in general. "Grieving", however, is a real dictionary-defined word, and it means something very different. =P

As such, this is a hazard of trusting your spellchecker a little too much.

[Ferinex]

People get away with crimes all the time. I know.

OH GOD NO ONE MESS WITH THIS HARDCORE DUDE. HE WILL FUCK YOU UP. I KNOW.




Edit: Also, in response to everything: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

You people are getting addicted to this game, and it's messing with your heads.

YOU HAZ NO REIT TO B IN BOTLNEKK

What the fuck? Just like blacks have no place in your restaurant?

HURR DURR I BRING INTERNON IRL LIKE ANON CUZ THEY BE KOOL PEEPZ

Making real life threats as the result of a video game is absolutely preposterous. Get the fuck over it and make a new character. Obviously you don't need to spend 30 hours grinding to have fun in this game - the 'alt problem' is a testament to that. Do you think these 'griefers' would continue doing what they are doing if they weren't having fun? No, they'd get bored and move on (which they will, eventually, and new ones will come to replace them.)

Anyone who has spent more than a month on /b/ understands these peoples' thought processes, and why they are having fun. They know that in the end they are doing NO real life harm to anyone, and so they can laugh when you get worked up over something as petty as a video game. Calling them names just makes them laugh harder, so just give up. Grief back.

[ybobjoe]

Sure, we don't know who your characters are, yet, but we can now link your characters with you in the future.

Meh, I doubt it. Either way I'm not too sure how much longer I'll be playing this game anyways, All my friends seem to have quit on me, hence my boredom. The problem with this game is that once you make everything there isn't much to do other then grind for stats, and even then there is nothing to kill.

The new world + new players interests me, but right now there is B12 and Lakeside, pretty much all the other communities aren't playing much as far as I can tell. Heck even those two don't seem to be playing all that much.

Frankly I think the problem is that everyone is afraid of one another, for instance you said "You had no right to be in Bottleneck in the first place.", and adam felt the need to build fires around some random person's hearth. You can't really meet people ingame very well when people feel the need to act like that =/

Maybe once people can see under objects, the skill requirements are updated, people can destroy objects within their town/claim and whatnot, people will actually loosen up a bit =/

Spellchecking software often doesn't care about terms invented for gaming or the internet in general. "Grieving", however, is a real dictionary-defined word, and it means something very different. =P

As such, this is a hazard of trusting your spellchecker a little too much.

Yeah I know grieving = crying/mourning, I just saw the spell check line and let it confuse me.