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anderako wrote:I keep forgetting that I'm talking to somebody who thinks that DNA is artificial
And I'm talking to someone who didn't read what I posted. The concept of "information" is a human construct. DNA is not innately "information". Nothing is innately "information". "Information" is an entirely human idea.
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Burinn wrote:Nothing is innately "information". "Information" is an entirely human idea.
You're wrong.
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Please don't be buttmad I said space sucks lol :lol: :oops:
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anderako wrote:
Burinn wrote:Nothing is innately "information". "Information" is an entirely human idea.
You're wrong.
What a good argument. You have compelled me to change my mind. /s
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Burinn wrote:
anderako wrote:
Burinn wrote:Nothing is innately "information". "Information" is an entirely human idea.
You're wrong.
What a good argument.
Your argument wasn't good either.

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NOOBY93 wrote:Your argument wasn't good either.

"3 = 5 xdddd"
"no, you're wrong."
"what a good argument"
"Information" is entirely subjective to our perspective, ie our observations. And believe it or not the universe it not subject to this. Binary would be a jumble of ones and zeroes to any other species. A postulate of being able to understand it is being human, nothing about it is innate "information" decipherable by any sentient being in the universe.
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Other animals communicate plenty. Also, regardless of which species you are, everything you experience is a pattern of neurons, which seems like information to me.
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I belive alians is real but only in retard cell stage.
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anderako wrote:Other animals communicate plenty. Also, regardless of which species you are, everything you experience is a pattern of neurons, which seems like information to me.
I think she tries to say that information needs to have something to understand it for it to be information. If I encrypt some file and do not give you the key, is these random bits information to you? I do not think so, it is impossible* for you to ever make sense of this file. Some things do not become information without some thing that can understand those things. Otherwise it is just noise.

*In your lifetime, with current technology and knowledge of maths
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anderako wrote:Other animals communicate plenty. Also, regardless of which species you are, everything you experience is a pattern of neurons, which seems like information to me.
I think you are intentionally being pedantic at this point.
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anderako wrote:Other animals communicate plenty. Also, regardless of which species you are, everything you experience is a pattern of neurons, which seems like information to me.
I think she tries to say that information needs to have something to understand it for it to be information. If I encrypt some file and do not give you the key, is these random bits information to you? I do not think so, it is impossible* for you to ever make sense of this file. Some things do not become information without some thing that can understand those things. Otherwise it is just noise.

*In your lifetime, with current technology and knowledge of maths
Precisely.
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