Why are vegetarians hated?

[Burinn]

The only valid reason I see to go vegan is the moral one,

Morbid obesity, but then that is more about cutting out all fats from the diet other than what occurs naturally in vegetables.

Eat less food.
Lose weight.
???
It is not hard.

Alright Ysh that isn't even remotely true and that's a common misconception. Plenty of people can't lose weight just by eating less. If everyone could just lose weight by eating less no one would be over weight lol

[Ysh]

Morbid obesity, but then that is more about cutting out all fats from the diet other than what occurs naturally in vegetables.

Eat less food.
Lose weight.
???
It is not hard.

Alright Ysh that isn't even remotely true and that's a common misconception. Plenty of people can't lose weight just by eating less. If everyone could just lose weight by eating less no one would be over weight lol

Where do you think this fat is coming from? It will just grow inside of them for no reason? This is silly.

[Burinn]

Where do you think this fat is coming from? It will just grow inside of them for no reason? This is silly.

Fat isn't just a matter of calorie counting, this has been proven over and over. Fatphobics continue using totally misleading rhetoric when talking about obesity.

[Ysh]

Where do you think this fat is coming from? It will just grow inside of them for no reason? This is silly.

Fat isn't just a matter of calorie counting, this has been proven over and over. Fatphobics continue using totally misleading rhetoric when talking about obesity.

What?

[Burinn]

Where do you think this fat is coming from? It will just grow inside of them for no reason? This is silly.

Fat isn't just a matter of calorie counting, this has been proven over and over. Fatphobics continue using totally misleading rhetoric when talking about obesity.

What?

Look it up.

[Ysh]

Fat isn't just a matter of calorie counting, this has been proven over and over. Fatphobics continue using totally misleading rhetoric when talking about obesity.

What?

Look it up.

Shock! Fat will not spontaneous generate! Do you have some facts maybe?

[Burinn]

What?

Look it up.

Shock! Fat will not spontaneous generate! Do you have some facts maybe?

It's so much more complex than that Ysh. Basic physics don't describe the vast number of chemical interactions food has with our bodies.

[Ysh]

Look it up.

Shock! Fat will not spontaneous generate! Do you have some facts maybe?

It's so much more complex than that Ysh. Basic physics don't describe the vast number of chemical interactions food has with our bodies.

Basic physics don't describe the vast number of chemical interactions food has with our bodies.

Basic physics don't describe the vast number of chemical interactions...

...physics don't describe...chemical interactions...

You claim to study biochemistry field? I do not believe this or I do not believe your argument. Likely I believe neither.

[MagicManICT]

As pointed out, if eating less were easy (let alone the cure), nobody would be overweight that didn't want to be. Even calorie counting is a red herring. The kicker in the diet that my family member was (still kind of is) on is cutting out excess fats. This is the highest and most useless source of calories to an overweight person. They have plenty of stored fat for the needs of metabolic processes. When you cut meats and animal products out and drop extra sugars such as soft drinks, sweets, and others, you can now eat to get full and calories are a non-issue.

A case in point about "eating less," a dietary professor at a well-known state university did a self-experiment in short term dieting by eating only the worst possible junk food. The bounds were to only eat the appropriate number of calories a day and take dietary supplements to make up for lost nutrients. He reported no short-term ill effects from the diet, but wasn't sure what long term effects would be due to the body not utilizing supplements as well as vitamins, minerals, and such from natural sources, the long term effects of so much sugar and fat along with lack of proteins, and other potential health risks. His one major complaint was that he felt like he was constantly hungry from no bulk in his stomach that would normally be provided with a vegetable and whole-grain rich diet.

But who has the discipline to eat like that long term? That's why calorie counting is a red herring. If you're resorting to it, you need to look at what you're doing wrong elsewhere in what you eat.

Anyway, gotten off the subject a bit. Sorry and all that.

[Ysh]

As pointed out, if eating less were easy (let alone the cure), nobody would be overweight that didn't want to be.

Except for weak willed glutton men. Also known as fat men.

Even calorie counting is a red herring. The kicker in the diet that my family member was (still kind of is) on is cutting out excess fats. This is the highest and most useless source of calories to an overweight person. They have plenty of stored fat for the needs of metabolic processes. When you cut meats and animal products out and drop extra sugars such as soft drinks, sweets, and others, you can now eat to get full and calories are a non-issue.

"Calories do not matter. I have family member, they start eating less calories and lose weight. But they do not count them." The acts of counting doesn't do it, obviously. It's because they eat less calories. Dropping out sugar and fat will clearly drop out some calories.

A case in point about "eating less," a dietary professor at a well-known state university did a self-experiment in short term dieting by eating only the worst possible junk food. The bounds were to only eat the appropriate number of calories a day and take dietary supplements to make up for lost nutrients. He reported no short-term ill effects from the diet, but wasn't sure what long term effects would be due to the body not utilizing supplements as well as vitamins, minerals, and such from natural sources, the long term effects of so much sugar and fat along with lack of proteins, and other potential health risks. His one major complaint was that he felt like he was constantly hungry from no bulk in his stomach that would normally be provided with a vegetable and whole-grain rich diet.

Nutrition is a different topic. Clearly this man did not gain weight. This is because he did not eat more calories. You argue against your own self with this one.

But who has the discipline to eat like that long term? That's why calorie counting is a red herring. If you're resorting to it, you need to look at what you're doing wrong elsewhere in what you eat.

Discipline to not eat when not hungry? To not eat exclusively garbage food? To not eat everything that I can see? Gee, I wonder who could have such discipline.