Burinn wrote:Hasta wrote:Use undeniable facts. Speculate based solely on them. Suggest the most likely reasons and outcomes. NOT just headbutting each other trying to disprove propaganda being fed by media from BOTH sides.
Burinn wrote: Are we going to sit and prax it out?
Could have just said yes to this part.
I agree that we should agree to disagree in that case.
So it is you, in the end, who's not willing to keep an open mind in a friendly discussion, you'd prefer to stick to your opinion, not letting in an inch more. Well, that is your right, however, this isn't how you concept insightful ideas. Just don't forget that I offered.
@Ysh: not talking about politics, per se, but rather about media and propaganda.
Example:
Russian media: there is no russian soldiers in Ukraine (propaganda). Ukrainian media: yes there are (propaganda).
Fact: there is a civil war going on in Ukraine, with one side being supported by Russia, not officially.
Speculation: most likely there are soldiers in Ukraine with Russian citizenship; Russia and Ukraine was very close during Soviet era (closer than any other parts of USSR), so the relatives are many on both sides of this crisis. It is unlikely that those military men are officially organised and send there by the state, though, because that would be easily proven and had a disasterous consequences.
See, it's not that complicated to base your opinion on facts. If you wish to weighn in here, I will gladly consider your counter-arguments of theories and may just change my opinion.