Fish Pie/ Meat pie

[ricky]

Meat pie takes 1 meat/egg/.50 water/.35 flour
Meat pie gives 5 str FEP/4 con FEP = 9 FEP

Fish pie takes 2 fish/egg/.50 water/.45 flour
Fish pie gives 5 int FEP/ 2 per FEP = 7 FEP

lower ingredients needed for fishpie or raise its FEP please
Or nerf meatpie...

[Ukhata]

or just accept the 2 are different. and not needed to be exactly the same....
fish takes less effort to catch than meat to get.
initially at least. it needs less direct action. thus it is equal enough.

[ricky]

or just accept the 2 are different. and not needed to be exactly the same....
fish takes less effort to catch than meat to get.
initially at least. it needs less direct action. thus it is equal enough.

I disagree

[kemil88]

or just accept the 2 are different. and not needed to be exactly the same....
fish takes less effort to catch than meat to get.
initially at least. it needs less direct action. thus it is equal enough.

I agree with you, anyone could just almost-fill his inventory with baits and go afk fishing (like in the couch while taking a peek sometimes to see if it stopped for some reason) and return with plenty of fish without taking any risk, anyone with fishing at least (pretty easy to get), for food someone with hunting but no chances to beat a fox, should only take rabbits, but they are fast, and you have to find them (also squirrel, but pretty rare, and also hedgehog, but damages you, and 15 HHP damage is not so few for new characters), so, a farmer without metal or str (most needed only to fight and mining), and yeah anyone who likes Int/Per instead of STR/CON could easily gather as much fish as they want without any problem.
For the flour, well, I have only a 5x5 farm for Barley, and I have a LOT of Flour, even if the other 2 members of my village keep doing pumpkin pie/bread

[Ukhata]

or just accept the 2 are different. and not needed to be exactly the same....
fish takes less effort to catch than meat to get.
initially at least. it needs less direct action. thus it is equal enough.

I disagree

this is fine. meaning even you acknowledge it is personal preference and not really imbalance.

[ricky]

or just accept the 2 are different. and not needed to be exactly the same....
fish takes less effort to catch than meat to get.
initially at least. it needs less direct action. thus it is equal enough.

I disagree

this is fine. meaning even you acknowledge it is personal preference and not really imbalance.

E: accidentally hit submit

I didn't really think i'd have to make a case for my suggestion, but here it goes anyways:

by the time you have eggs, which requires having a chicken coop, which requires having wheat, which requires having a farm, you should already have a surplus of meat and have migrated away from fishing entirely.

okay, sure, fishing is risk free and easy, but it takes time and ultimately is slower to acquire than meat, making it worth more than meat, at least in terms of time, maybe not effort.

and then the raw ingredients to make a fishpie are more than meatpie, with less returns than meatpie.

why would anyone bother making a fishpie when they could make a blueberry pie instead and get better FEP with less ingredients?

my two cents.

[kemil88]

Because to make blueberry Pie you have to find the Blueberry, while you can almost have infinite Fish with all the rivers that there are in this game..

[Zeler]

I played with a person who was dedicated to fishing and liked to do so, but beside sometimes eating perch, we had shitload fish laying around in stockpiles. Nonetheless, while raw fish can be a bit weak to high hunger percentage and not always the best feps (mind you that some species are awesome), fish pie would be a lot better if we had possibility of foraging wild eggs from places where chickens spawn.

[tyrtix]

blueberry pie does not have better fep, in fact it's worse for the purpose of the stat you want to raise, also, you should note that:

- fishing is a lot more convenient for raising certain stats instead of others, and some of the fish recipes are incredibly good

- there is a lot more food with str feps than int, this does not make automatically that we need a balance within the food categories vs. stats increase.

[jorb]

Fish should probably get a buff one way or another.