"I want the game to be ruined just for me because I have money."borka wrote:so the player count will stay creepy ... like the income ...
This is all I'm hearing.
"I want the game to be ruined just for me because I have money."borka wrote:so the player count will stay creepy ... like the income ...
What am I misinterpreting here? You want a special version of Haven & Hearth just for you, and when people inevitably grief you because of how flawed the game-mode is, you want Jorb & Loftar to come to your rescue and ban them? And they should listen to you because otherwise their income will be 'creepy'? (interesting choice of vocab there).borka wrote:go see a doctor with your hearing loss ...
/flame end
Well it kind of was unless you're saying borka has a good idea, I don't think it's that great.LadyGoo wrote:That neediness."You've ignored my amazing and absolutely right points, but responded to some no-name Borka. What a waste of time!".
LadyGoo wrote:There is a reason why people ignore you, nah?
NotJimmy97 wrote:You gave an idea for a game-mode, and I replied with my earnest explanation for why that idea is terrible. That's how this board works, right?
I didn't intentionally ignore your points, I was just caught up responding to someone else. I apologize.Kaios wrote:Hey NotJimmy I really enjoy how you've responded to borka's suggestion for a non-pvp zone which is almost as bad as the idea to turn the game in to minion controlling RTS yet you neglect to respond to any of the completely valid points I brought up. Great use of your time, I'm certain you're going to convince the devs this is the route they should take.
You're acting like this is a slippery-slope, but it doesn't have to be. Allowing every-day players the ability to finish the most tedious, menial tasks without grinding for hours everyday is just a way to remove the incentive to use outside programs to gain an advantage over other players. Yes, I think there should be some sort of summon-able guest or spirit that will farm for you, mine for you, cut down trees for you, and do some basic inventory management. The reason why is because these facets do not add to the value of the game. The most successful and most devoted players of the game have programmed outside software simply to avoid these experiences. This leaves us with two options: completely remake farming, mining, logging, and other facets such that people don't want to bot them, or add an option for players to sacrifice large amounts of other resources in order to handle these menial tasks in less time.Kaios wrote: Farming is a good first step but mining is pretty boring too so I'd like to see an area selection implemented for that with auto drinking and stockpiling. I'm rather tired of making bricks too so hopefully it can just be changed so a simple shift click will start the process and empty the inventory to any empty nearby kilns or put to stockpiles which are also being loaded in to the kilns automatically. Building the walls is really boring too so once the script is done pulling all the bricks from the kilns it should just move to building which would be easily designated by highlighting the paved rows. Also the paving happens simultaneously during the leveling process which is also automatic. Oh don't forget about milking that shit is lame to do manually like really how do u expect me to milk all 50 of my cows and all 50 of my sheep with only two buckets in a timely fashion?!
You're right it doesn't have to be, but it is.NotJimmy97 wrote:You're acting like this is a slippery-slope, but it doesn't have to be.
lolThe most successful and most devoted players of the game have programmed outside software simply to avoid these experiences.
I don't really see any issues as far as abuse of such a system would go but what does it change exactly? Any material costs involved would be circumvented by the players with the better scripts/clients anyways while everyone else who may actually need to take advantage of the implementation is forced to pay the LP cost and follow the rules you've outlined. Does that seem like it's leveling the playing field to you? Doesn't seem that way to me.I think that this system will work well because the bots will be too stupid and expensive for doing the specialized tasks you're talking about, but they're smart enough to accomplish menial things that nobody wants to do. What do you think? Do you see any vulnerabilities for abuse?