Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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VDZ
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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Avu wrote:even they should maybe go to work instead.
But they do work. They just get shit pay for what is probably more work than we do.
Granger wrote:Move to a country then where honey and milk runs in rivers and fried chicken fly into your open mouth.

Just don't be disappointed when you then find out that a good portion of the people there are also cut off from the nice stuff, like in your country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_i ... cal_status

There are countless people who do want to migrate to richer countries. But we (read: our governments and the assholes voting for them) are actually paying huge sums specifically to keep them out.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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sabinati wrote:
VDZ wrote:
Sarge wrote:even though there is a 'free for poor fucks' option?
The 'free for poor fucks' option gives you
* a 33% penalty to character development
* a 60% speed reduction for various tasks ('convenience')
* an inventory size decrease from 5x5 to 4x4
compared to having a verified and subscribed account.

When not everybody has the option of paying a reasonable sum to verify and subscribe, this is an unfair disadvantage.
so trade for tokens
That's what a lot of them seem to be doing, though I personally don't know if we should be happy about token trading as it's basically RMT which is a classic form of pay-to-win. Fortunately it's a hassle so it hasn't been a serious problem yet.

Under the new system, though, you also need to be verified. You can't do that with tokens.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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VDZ wrote:
Avu wrote:even they should maybe go to work instead.
But they do work. They just get shit pay for what is probably more work than we do.
Granger wrote:Move to a country then where honey and milk runs in rivers and fried chicken fly into your open mouth.

Just don't be disappointed when you then find out that a good portion of the people there are also cut off from the nice stuff, like in your country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_i ... cal_status

There are countless people who do want to migrate to richer countries. But we (read: our governments and the assholes voting for them) are actually paying huge sums specifically to keep them out.
I'm from a country that has lower salary than Russia.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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VDZ wrote: Under the new system, though, you also need to be verified. You can't do that with tokens.
You actually don't.

What you need is to check the dictionary on the meaning of 'need' and then do a reality check.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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Granger wrote:
VDZ wrote: Under the new system, though, you also need to be verified. You can't do that with tokens.
You actually don't.

What you need is to check the dictionary on the meaning of 'need' and then do a reality check.
'Need' as in to not have a disadvantage gameplay-wise. Which is what we were discussing. Or are you saying a 13% reduction in character development, 20% reduction in speed of actions and 1x0 reduction in inventory space is not a disadvantage?
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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You need food, shelter, security, company - all in real world.
What happens in a game is a luxury problem.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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Granger wrote:You need food, shelter, security, company - all in real world.
What happens in a game is a luxury problem.
Clearly all complaints about the game should be ignored entirely as they're not important compared to other things.
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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Avu wrote:You are looking at it wrong. The game is subscription based but in it's eternal generosity gives the opportunity to poor fucks to still play even they should maybe go to work instead. The game shouldn't let non payers play at all and then you'd have no problem with it.
You rich fuck, prepare yourself. We came to your home, take your money, put all your stuff on fire and fuck your wife. ).
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Re: Discount payment for Russian / Ukraine players

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VasilyM wrote:
Avu wrote:You are looking at it wrong. The game is subscription based but in it's eternal generosity gives the opportunity to poor fucks to still play even they should maybe go to work instead. The game shouldn't let non payers play at all and then you'd have no problem with it.
You rich fuck, prepare yourself. We came to your home, take your money, put all your stuff on fire and fuck your wife. ).
Why this hatred against the rich. Are you a communist?
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